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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 20 2011, 06:42 PM (1,047 Views) | |
| wamphyri101 | Sep 20 2011, 06:42 PM Post #1 |
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Most people talk about WoC special characters and just talk about lords... But what about the unsung heroes? Wulfrik: The ability to turn up behind/flanking an enemy army with 50+ Marauders can be pretty awesome. He is alright in combat and would get a parry save also. Pretty good for being able to challenge “weaker” characters as they have to accept. Festus: A level 2 with Curse of the leper and another spell can be pretty handy. Also being able to give poison attacks and a 5+ regen to a whole unit could make that unit of Marauders/ warriors extra deadly. Would maybe pop him in a Khorne warriors with Extra hand weapons. 3 x str 4 attacks, 4+ save and 5+ regen can make then as useful as a Tzeentch block Scylia Chaos spawn: Magic res 3 with a 6+ ward will reduce magic missiles. He moves 3d6 inches so can keep up with knights/Hell cannon. He is S5 T5 and 2d6+2 attacks is massive damage potential compared for a chariot (plus a stomp) All for 105 points! I think he is pretty good unless you face massed shooting. But I suppose if they are shooting at him they aren’t shooting other things |
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| svennh | Sep 20 2011, 08:31 PM Post #2 |
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I played a club tourment and Wulfric and Festus was included in my army. I ended second place cause of the scenario where the units are placed randomly. I ran Wulfric with a horde of 43 khorne GW. I always could deploy him the second turn. He only failed once because I underestimated 20 seaguards. Festus Is absolutley great. Many opponents forgot to hit festus in CC so He always survived the battles. Wulfric is dead cheap for his abilities, I always attacked units where magic users bunkered. They had to take the challenge. |
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| Kraytirous | Sep 20 2011, 11:38 PM Post #3 |
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Ironically, one of my most feared units in my arsenal is the massive 48 man Marauder horde, with Festus and Wulfrik. Screw armor, they have regen! |
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| AnomalyOfAwesome | Sep 21 2011, 12:41 AM Post #4 |
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Not entirely true that people only talk about the Lords. Quite a bit of talk about the cheese that Throgg can introduce to a game LoL. I have taken him a few times to spectacular effect. |
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| Vermillion | Sep 21 2011, 03:56 PM Post #5 |
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Honestly only looked at taking Valkia as a lord choice when looking at special characters, the hero level ones seem so much more useful. Never have done yet however because of the stigma I still feel since 4th ed WHFB and special characters unbalancing the game. |
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| Kraytirous | Sep 21 2011, 07:53 PM Post #6 |
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I do believe the reason that Lords are such a hot topic of discussion is because our Hero level special characters are so obviously useful and great. I think the reason we feel the need to discuss the Lords is to try to justify taking them. To be honest, short of the Sorcerer Lord, the hero-level counterpart to any of the Lords is much more points efficient, with the exception of Valkia (sorta...) and Archaon. |
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| rothgar13 | Sep 22 2011, 01:06 AM Post #7 |
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I actually think WoC SC Heroes see a lot more play than SC Lords. I hear plenty about Festus and Throgg and Wulfrik, but not all that much about Vilitch or Valkia or Sigvald or Archaon. The reason why I think that's true is pricing - none of our Lords are cheap, whereas all those Heroes actually fit in a reasonably sized list. There's no doubt that Archaon rocks, but until you're at 2,800 points or so, you can't even consider him as an option. |
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| Vermillion | Sep 22 2011, 04:01 AM Post #8 |
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I think this will boil down to the fact everyone wants a lvl 4 caster and feel that without one there's a serious disadvantage. With WoC lords being so expensive normal sized games only one is an option the combat types are left at home. |
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| nzkoston | Oct 4 2011, 02:34 PM Post #9 |
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Wulfrik helped me smash a dwarf army not too long ago. When he showed up with 40 GW marauders on the flank of their gun line in the first turn the opposing player nearly forfeited right there and then! Having Seafang can be a huge game changer. Especially when quite a few of my friends like to leave a crucial general unit at the rear. Throgg is worth his point just saving me from having to baby sit my stupid trolls. Festus is probably my least favourite. Yet no doubt he is still great in his own way. Scylla im still yet to use. But with having the new FAQ on spawn it potentially makes him a lot more dangerous. |
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| Samael | Oct 6 2011, 02:20 AM Post #10 |
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The only SC I use is Throgg. Since it allows me to move trolls to core and still keep my own rule of 4+ save. I only use him if my 38 warriors ar not enough to cover the core percentage. A small block of trolls helps to tip it over 25%. I have tried using magical banners to do the same, but always forget they have the banners. :wacko: |
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| popisdead | Oct 8 2011, 05:59 AM Post #11 |
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I like Wulfric but I wish he was an upgrade unit champ (like Ghorros) for Marauders over a character. I like having BSBs and a couple low level casters. Festus is my favourite character. The Lore of Nurgle is fluffy and still tactically viable. You also left out Throgg who is probably the most hated WoC entry. I find him very powerful especially as getting Core Trolls is pretty great. |
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| Tainted-By-Chaos | Oct 8 2011, 10:17 PM Post #12 |
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festus would be excellent when combined with warrior blocks, but there is 2 components of warhammer i dont like.. painting and converting.. anyone know a good way to convert festus? |
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| Destandor | Oct 10 2011, 03:34 PM Post #13 |
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This guy should fit relatively well, don't you think? Nurgle sorcerer Or perhaps, Gui le Gros should you find him... |
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| confused | Oct 10 2011, 08:55 PM Post #14 |
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Warrior of the Chamber
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I'm suprised that no one has mentioned my favorite thing about Festus; he always generates Curse of the Leper! Because it's a fixed spell for him it means not only do you guarantee it's generation but you can also have two copies of this brutal, brutal spell in an army. On top of this Festus can still default to the autowound sniper spell meaning with CotL and Boobooes you have very strong supporting caster. |
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| popisdead | Oct 15 2011, 05:42 AM Post #15 |
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Is that true? I guess it is as from what I understand it is randomly generated spells that you cannot duplicate? I think he is great as a support caster and I quite like the Lore of Nurgle. |
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