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| Vilitch @ 2400; Worth it? | |
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| Hieronymus | Mar 14 2012, 06:22 PM Post #1 |
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One of the problems that I've always suffered from when making a WoC list is wanting to have both a Lord and a Sorcerer Lord in the same list. As far as I can tell if you don't have a LVL 4 Wizard people who do will walk all over you in the magic phase, and if you don't have a lord then you aren't getting a bit of close combat punch and the Leadership 9 which pushes you into more reliable leadership territory. Anyway, long story short, is Vilitch worth his points? Vilitch 395 My thought would be that he is overpriced, but at the same time his utility is pretty great and he can defend himself in CC. It's just knowing you are definitely going to get Gateway in your spells and his extra dice from failing to cast/dispel that tip it for me. Anyone else got any thoughts/CSL Vilitch-like builds? +++ 2400pt Warriors of Chaos Roster (Standard) +++ Selections: + Lords + (395pts) * Unique Characters (Lords) (395pts) Vilitch the Curseling + Heroes + (355pts) * Chaos Sorcerer (205pts) Level 2, Lore of Nurgle, Mark of Nurgle, On foot * Gifts of Chaos (25 p) Third Eye of Tzeentch * Magic Items (50 p) Infernal Puppet, Ironcurse Icon * Exalted Hero (150pts) Army Battle Standard, Mark of Tzeentch, On foot, Shield + Core + (1020pts) * Chaos Warhounds (30pts) 5x Chaos Warhound * Chaos Warhounds (30pts) 5x Chaos Warhound * Chaos Warriors (390pts) Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Mark of Tzeentch * 20x Chaos Warrior 20x Shields * Magic Standard (50 p) Rapturous Standard * Chaos Warriors (390pts) Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Mark of Nurgle * 20x Chaos Warrior 20x Additional Hand Weapons * Magic Standard (50 p) Banner of Eternal Flame * Marauder Horsemen (180pts) Marauder Chieftain, Musician, Standard Bearer, Mark of Slaanesh * 10x Marauder 10x Spears + Special + (630pts) * Chaos Chariot (140pts) Mark of Tzeentch * Chaos Chariot (140pts) Mark of Tzeentch * Ogres (350pts) Musician, Mutant Ogre, Standard Bearer, Mark of Khorne * 6x Ogre 6x Additional Hand Weapons, 6x Chaos Armour Also any thoughts on the list that accompanies him? |
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| Harbinger | Mar 15 2012, 02:26 AM Post #2 |
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The Chosen
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Over all IMO tzeentch magic took a huge nose-dive when related to other lores. I really think nurgle outshines chaos magic as far as utility and offense. If you want to run vilitch, here are his pros and cons vs a custom Lv4 sorcerer lord. knows all 6 spells has the magic vaccum thingy has decent stats However Only has a 4+/6+ vs attacks only WS5 doesn't have true lords LD Custom lord Can know 5 of six some 90% of time will end up with gate anyway can take a much better armour and wardsave typically costs the same can have the same strength as vilitch for 20 points and same WS already can take gifts He is also about the same points or a little more depending on how you run him. If you worried about the LD, you can put an exalted in a warrior unit that has the banner of discipline and make him a LD9 general. Ogrs without great weapons seem a waste, since ogres have low WS, they really need to kill whatever they hit in the first round. They are slow as well so most things already go before them. I would go MoK on chaiots for the extra attacks and immune to psych. |
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| Harbinger | Mar 15 2012, 02:28 AM Post #3 |
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The Chosen
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Actually a Lv4 sorcerer lord of tzeentch with an enchanted shield, talisman of preservation, spell familiar, and sword of might is 385. So he ends up being cheaper then vilitch. |
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| Harbinger | Mar 15 2012, 02:30 AM Post #4 |
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The Chosen
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Also just caught this. Instead of additional hand weapons on the warriors, i would take halberds. You might not think it, but the extra strength really outshines having an additional attack. Most people even give their khorne warriors halberds over additional hand weapons. |
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| DarkSchneider | Mar 15 2012, 03:26 AM Post #5 |
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Only thing Vilitch is good for, is that he makes you double ALL the tzeench lore, cause he knows all spells by default. So if, for example, you run 2 lvl 2 tzeench sorcerors along with him, you can cast gateway or pandemonium TWO TIMES for magic phase. |
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