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| Hieronymus | Mar 18 2012, 06:34 PM Post #1 |
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Warrior of the Chamber
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My final thoughts before I go and squander some coin on them. I don't know if it will work or if its serviceable, but I would like to, so any suggestions please don't hold back. Festus goes in MoN CW and BS goes in MoT warriors. +++ No Name (2400pts) +++ +++ 2400pt Warriors of Chaos Roster (Standard) +++ Selections: + Lords + (435pts) * Sorceror Lord (435pts) Disk of Tzeentch, Level 4, Lore of Tzeentch, Mark of Tzeentch * Gifts of Chaos (50 p) Third Eye of Tzeentch * Magic Items (100 p) Biting Blade, Dragonhelm, Infernal Puppet, Talisman of Preservation + Heroes + (355pts) * Exalted Hero (170pts) Army Battle Standard, Mark of Tzeentch, On foot, Shield * Gifts of Chaos (25 p) Bloodcurdling roar * Unique Characters (Heroes) (185pts) Festus the Leechlord + Core + (1020pts) * Chaos Warhounds (30pts) 5x Chaos Warhound * Chaos Warhounds (30pts) 5x Chaos Warhound * Chaos Warriors (380pts) Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Mark of Nurgle * 20x Chaos Warrior 20x Additional Hand Weapons * Chaos Warriors (380pts) Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Mark of Tzeentch * 20x Chaos Warrior 20x Halberds * Magic Standard (50 p) Banner of Eternal Flame * Marauder Horsemen (200pts) Marauder Chieftain, Musician, Standard Bearer, Mark of Slaanesh * 10x Marauder 10x Light Armour, 10x Spears, 10x Throwing spears + Special + (590pts) * Chaos Chariot (120pts) * Chaos Chariot (120pts) * Ogres (350pts) Musician, Mutant Ogre, Standard Bearer, Mark of Nurgle * 6x Ogre 6x Additional Hand Weapons, 6x Chaos Armour |
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| propervillanz | Mar 19 2012, 03:50 AM Post #2 |
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A Manly Muppet
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Awesome list that will pack a whole lotta punch. I personally love chariots and Chaos chariots hit very very hard. I have run marauder horsemen as units of 10 on several occasions an there is not a single one that they made it out of turn 1. Though i tend to play opponents who love missile happy armies. Maybe two units of 5 so if one gets shot to oblivion the other can possibly make it. Or, as it has happened to me twice, you see them both get obliterated rather quickly and feel a little less peeved because they were a little less points. Personally, i would drop them all together and add at least 2 more units of warhounds and use the other points as you see fit. You wont get the vanguard but it is much easier to see a 30pt unit get wiped out then the 200pt unit, trust me. Or drop the unit and 5 more points and put in a Hellcannon, in my humble opinion there is nothing better to have watching your armies back or anchoring down a flank. Also giving you the option of a super stone thrower and/or monster to cover/support your advancing army. |
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| Hieronymus | Mar 19 2012, 05:52 AM Post #3 |
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Warrior of the Chamber
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Thanks, it is the product of a whole load of terrible lists that really don't do much. The marauders are a bit weak as far as I can tell, they will probably die and i'm not against putting a hell cannon in there. I've got a tzeentch sorc in there because, I don't know it seems like if you don't take a tzeentch sorc you are missing out, but I was thinking that Lore of Shadows might have some better synergy with Nurgle, consideirng you get Curse of the Leper with Festus, and if you can get down a withering you can really reduce a terrifying unit to something much more manageable or indeed kill them by reducing their toughness to zero. Any thoughts? |
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| DarkSchneider | Mar 19 2012, 06:42 AM Post #4 |
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Clanlord
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The list looks solid, but I would do a few changes: give your bsb some nice magic items. Try to put banner of rage on nurgle warriors (4 attacks each with poison attacks is really nasty). Drop standard and champion from marauder horsemen, you won't need them, and go for flails |
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| Hieronymus | Mar 19 2012, 08:00 AM Post #5 |
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Warrior of the Chamber
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I've altered the list to take into account those suggestions. Removed Marauder Horsemen, I think they were probably too expensive and not effective enough anyway. Added Hellcannon and a few magical items for the bsb. The items might look odd but I had a few points to spend and so wanted to get a few cheap things that I thought might help, Ironcurse to protect him and the unit from cannon and the magic sword in case any pesky ethereals turn up. I didn't put the Banner of Rage in there because although four attacks would be lovely with an army with such a low troop count, I didn't want to give opponents the chance to manipulate my troops with Frenzy and take them away from important fights, but I could well be wrong on this. Selections: + Lords + (410pts) * Sorceror Lord (410pts) Disk of Tzeentch, Level 4, Lore of Tzeentch, Mark of Tzeentch * Magic Items (100 p) Biting Blade, Dragonhelm, Infernal Puppet, Talisman of Preservation + Heroes + (375pts) * Exalted Hero (190pts) Army Battle Standard, On foot, Shield * Gifts of Chaos (25 p) Bloodcurdling roar * Magic Items (50 p) Enchanted Shield, Ironcurse Icon, Talisman of Protection, Tormentor Sword * Unique Characters (Heroes) (185pts) Festus the Leechlord + Core + (820pts) * Chaos Warhounds (30pts) 5x Chaos Warhound * Chaos Warhounds (30pts) 5x Chaos Warhound * Chaos Warriors (380pts) Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Mark of Tzeentch * 20x Chaos Warrior 20x Halberds * Magic Standard (50 p) Banner of Eternal Flame * Chaos Warriors (380pts) Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Mark of Nurgle * 20x Chaos Warrior 20x Additional Hand Weapons + Special + (590pts) * Chaos Chariot (120pts) * Chaos Chariot (120pts) * Ogres (350pts) Musician, Mutant Ogre, Standard Bearer, Mark of Nurgle * 6x Ogre 6x Additional Hand Weapons, 6x Chaos Armour + Rare + (205pts) * Hellcannon (205pts) |
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| Hieronymus | Mar 19 2012, 08:20 AM Post #6 |
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Warrior of the Chamber
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Woops. Gave the Exalted a shield and an enchanted shield! Sadly the armybook one is 15 points and rubbish, and the BRB book is 5 points and awesome. If I can use the BRB shield cut out the mundane shield and give him a Relic Sword. Also the Biting Blad is only 5 points in teh WoC armybook. Do Iuse those point instead? |
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| R3do | Mar 19 2012, 03:42 PM Post #7 |
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The Warptongue
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Yes u use points in ur armybook instead of Rulebook :) |
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| Hieronymus | Mar 19 2012, 07:45 PM Post #8 |
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Warrior of the Chamber
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So armybook trumps rulebook? Does that also apply to item effects? It's a 5+ armour save for the Enchanted Shield in the Army Book, but improves armour save by 2 in the BRB, and for ten points less. Am I right to assume that the 5+ doesn't stack with the Chaos Armour that the BSB is already wearing? |
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| R3do | Mar 19 2012, 10:46 PM Post #9 |
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The Warptongue
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It has been written to Rulebook pretty wierdly yes. But it has same rule as BRB rule :) Look at it this way: u got 4+ armorsave (chaos armor) then u add shield which have 5+ = 2+ armorsave. Shield's armorsave allways stack with armors :D |
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| Hieronymus | Mar 19 2012, 11:56 PM Post #10 |
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Warrior of the Chamber
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Thanks, that does make it slightly better, although the points in the WoC armybook are skewed against the BRB apart from on the Biting Blade and the Standard of Battle, which might actually be worth putting in tbh, considering what it does. |
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| Hieronymus | Mar 22 2012, 06:43 PM Post #11 |
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Warrior of the Chamber
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The list as it now stands has been altered slightly to put in Trolls and Throgg instead of Ogres. N.B. I can have 8 trolls, or four trolls with Throgg, which is better? +++ No Name (2395pts) +++ +++ 2400pt Warriors of Chaos Roster (Standard) +++ Selections: + Lords + (395pts) * Sorceror Lord (395pts) Level 4, Lore of Shadows, On foot * Gifts of Chaos (50 p) Third Eye of Tzeentch * Magic Items (100 p) Biting Blade, Dragonhelm, Infernal Puppet, Talisman of Preservation + Heroes + (555pts) * Exalted Hero (195pts) Army Battle Standard, Mark of Tzeentch, On foot, Shield * Gifts of Chaos (25 p) Bloodcurdling roar * Magic Items (50 p) Enchanted Shield, Ironcurse Icon, Talisman of Protection * Unique Characters (Heroes) (360pts) Festus the Leechlord, The Troll King Throgg + Core + (1000pts) * Chaos Warhounds (30pts) 5x Chaos Warhound * Chaos Warhounds (30pts) 5x Chaos Warhound * Chaos Warriors (380pts) Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Mark of Nurgle * 20x Chaos Warrior 20x Additional Hand Weapons * Chaos Warriors (380pts) Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Mark of Tzeentch * 20x Chaos Warrior 20x Halberds * Magic Standard (50 p) Banner of Eternal Flame * Trolls (Core) (180pts) 4x Troll + Special + (240pts) * Chaos Chariot (120pts) * Chaos Chariot (120pts) + Rare + (205pts) * Hellcannon (205pts) |
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