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1000 pts of the best warhammer race vs vamps and beast's
Topic Started: Mar 20 2012, 05:51 AM (243 Views)
athi
Warrior of the Chamber
hey guys my gw is having a tournemant ,just 1000 pts there will be vampire counts ,beastmen and empire and ill will play chaos :rock:

here is my list what do you think :


exalted champion (goes in warriors ) 210 pts
MOT,sword of strife,bloodcurdling roar ,bsb


5 chosen's : MoT,shield,champion ,book of secret 160 pts
(this is my cheap protected sorcerer gonne give him miasma or fire ???)

unit wolves(5 ) 30 pts
unit wolves (5) 30 pts

unit marauders (40) :MOT,shields musician,banner 232pts

unit wariors(17) : MOT,shields ,halberds,musician,banner of eternal flame 337 pts

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total of 999 pts
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whtdwrf11
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Where's your general because the BSB sure can't be the general and if you really want a fire caster you can get a level 2 chaos sorcerer for 120 points compared to spending 160 on a tiny chosen unit or spend 140 and make it a level 2 sorcerer with the MoT to keep in with the theme you seem to have but you would have to drop your BSB to fit in either of them and dropping the chosen as well if you go with the sorcerer itself since he can just hang out with the warriors unit.

It would free up 251 points and 40 could be used to give your marauders light armor so they have a 5 plus armor save in combat at least and then you have 211 to spend on whatever else you can think of.
Edited by whtdwrf11, Mar 20 2012, 06:28 AM.
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athi
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well what do you think :

sorcerer (general ) :lv2 ,MOT,dispell scroll ,warbanner (goes in warriors) 170 pts

5wolves 30 pts
5 wolves 30 pts

40 marrauders ; shield ,MoT,light armour ,fc 280 pts

17 warriors ,MOT, shields, halberds ,musician ,banner of eternal flame 337 pts

chariot ,MOK 150 pts



997 pts

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-hard magic (first infernal gate on most pts unit ) than pandemanium to making babies with there magic

-banner of fire vs vamps

-big marrauder bloclk vs spearmen and zombie hordes

chariot for some flank attack together with my cover warhounds

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athi
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what do you think whtdwrf11 ?? ps thanks for the tips they helped a lot
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propervillanz
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I would definitely put the bsb back in as it will increase your chances of passing key fear and terror tests which you will be taking a lot of. A fire or shadow wizard are both really good choices especially Sword of Ruin (the flamming/magical attack on the unit one).

I would say take the mark of the chariot or give it Slaanesh to ensure it doesn't fail any psychology tests. Maybe break up the marauder unit in to 2 units of 20, just to give you more options late in the game.

I love warriors, rugged, durable, dependable, but they are so darn expensive for other things you can get for the same points. You could drop that unit and bring another chariot and Hellcannon which would give you some added mobility and an unbreakable monster.

Lastly, do not underestimate what warhounds can do for you, especially against missle happy armies like empire or ambusher/scout happy armies like beastmen.
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athi
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propervillanz
Mar 20 2012, 11:47 AM
I would definitely put the bsb back in as it will increase your chances of passing key fear and terror tests which you will be taking a lot of. A fire or shadow wizard are both really good choices especially Sword of Ruin (the flamming/magical attack on the unit one).

I would say take the mark of the chariot or give it Slaanesh to ensure it doesn't fail any psychology tests. Maybe break up the marauder unit in to 2 units of 20, just to give you more options late in the game.

I love warriors, rugged, durable, dependable, but they are so darn expensive for other things you can get for the same points. You could drop that unit and bring another chariot and Hellcannon which would give you some added mobility and an unbreakable monster.

Lastly, do not underestimate what warhounds can do for you, especially against missle happy armies like empire or ambusher/scout happy armies like beastmen.

yeah i realy hate to leave my bsb but i can just have 250 points maks for my heroes so realy got to think about that

thanks for chariot remark that will halp a lot


i'm realy thinking about your idea to drop the my warriors and just go 2 marrauder unit and 2 charriot and hellcanon see how that works out verry nice idea . but i will have to take fire wizard with sword of ruin to making babies with the vamps .

well don't undersell the warhounds there cheap canon flodder ,pin down enemy unit so i can flank them and with the swiftstride special rule they can be move fast against those ambushers
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athi
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been mind breaking about this one (ps i hate playing with few points )

Exalted : MOT,bsb,shield (goes in marrauder unit) 150 pts

sorcerer : 85 pts (goes in other marrauder unit wit fc and is my general)

i gonna make it a fire wizard with the sword of ruin to boost my troops with fire and magical weapons


Marauder unit : 19 ,banner ,musician ,MOT,light armour ,shield 146 pts


Marauder unit : 19 ,fc ,MOT,light armour ,shield 154 pts


Chariot: MOS 130 pts
Chariot: MOS 130 pts

hell canon 205 pts

thats 1000pts

what do you guys think (thanks to the guys that already gave a lot of tips they helped
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whtdwrf11
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Sorry for the slow response I've been busy now onto the list.

You can't pick what spell you get so at best your hoping to roll up the flaming sword.

To be perfectly honest at 1 k points how often is there going to be a huge amount of fear or terror causers and the 150 points spent on a bsb could get you five units of warhounds alone.

I honestly preferred the list that had warriors in it because it gave you a hammer unit to slam into the side of whatever your marauders were holding up but if your going to drop them then you need a new unit to act as a hammer and you need to find a place to keep your caster safe as well now.

Your new list trades in warriors for a monster and two chariots the chariots will have to be your heavy hitters but now you have no diverting units at all to preoccupy other units while you deal with a different unit.

If I was making the list I would keep it to one character then I would work on getting the 25% in core with something to hold the enemy in place or beat them if possible so I could hit them in the flank or rear or both if I can manage it with my harder hitting units if the unit hasn't already been seen off by the original unit that was fighting.

I would then try and fit in some units of warhounds or marauder horsemen to divert and screen my units if there was any points left I would see if I could add anything else to help cover any weaknesses or improve a unit or add in another unit if you can fit it.

So basically my 1k list would consist of a single character unless forced to take two like with my Bretonnians, a combat unit or two to keep the enemy in place or beat them if possible, a heavy hitter unit or two, a few diversion units and whatever points were left I would either put into covering a weakness or improving a unit or adding one if you can fit it.

Of course it won't be so simple as that with only 1 k points so it would require careful thought and planning of the list.
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athi
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no problem dude ; gonne take both sugestion an think har than test them out and pooty battle report online thanks for the comments
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