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FINECAST... yea or nah?
Topic Started: Jun 15 2012, 01:14 PM (2,760 Views)
Khornefed
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nathan1x
Sep 23 2012, 10:20 PM
The miscast rate in the finecast range is like 1 in 4 where with the metal ones its like 1 in 100.
I have now worked with 8 finecast products. 7 needed a tremendous amount of work to make right. Bubbles, pits, bent parts, etc. The 8th was excellent. Fortunately, I only really paid for 1, the good one. The rest were given to me by friends who were so disgusted with the quality they decided to just give the things away, which I then took, fixed, and gave back to them. Just because I felt sorry for them. GWs explanation was that Bubbles, Pits, and Bent were "normal" for resin casts, and sent them a link to a web-page that explained how to "condition the model for painting".

I will NEVER purchase another finecast model. Ever.

I have worked with a number of Forge World models, and not seen these types of problems, other that the occasional bent part. Though they do seem to need some "sprue cleanup" where they have been cast on sprues.
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Brad


Just bought my second finecast figure, the easterling nazgul thing for LotR. I didn't think to check the pack before I paid. Got home to discover that the rider only had legs, the entire torso/head part of the rider was missing. At this point I assumed it must be a multi-part model and the blister was mispacked, so I took it back (the blister hadn't been opened at this point). The drone picked up a replacement off the shelf, and we discovered that it's not a multi-part at all - the resin simply hadn't flowed up the mould to the body.

The exchange model has all its bits and is pretty good quality - not as good as a plastic or metal, but not bubbled or pitted.
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Wulfrik
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I said pretty bad. I don't know, maybe I just love the heft that a metal model gives you over a Finecast one.

In terms of defects, I guess I can't really say since I've only bought two FC models. They were both for my Ogre army: a Firebelly and the Paymaster Maneater. The Firebelly was perfect, with virtually no defects (one of his toes looked a little funky, but that's negligible). The Maneater though... yeesh. The guy at the store gave me a discount because of how mangled his face was. I have to say though, I actually like how messed up he looks. What I didn't like was that his feet didn't quite touch the ground, so I had to use a bit of Green Stuff to attach him to the base.

Also I think the main reason I don't care for Finecast is the price increase. GW saves money by switching to a cheaper material, and then proceed to charge you more for something that has a decent chance of being mangled on arrival. Whoever came up with that idea is truly a criminal mastermind.
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Borunel
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Pretty Bad.

Bad castings with bubbles at some point is the norm and bent components that require previously unnecessary procedures to set right. The mouldings are crisper I would accept although I wonder how many painters would actually be able to capitalise on that added crispness - not as many as would like to think they can I suspect.
Converting and modelling with the stuff is no easier in my opinion than metal - in most ways it is significantly less forgiving than metal due to its softness and ironically, its extra detail which frequently requires resculpting if you need to adjust it.

Finally the lack of weight is a big no-no for me - a metal miniature is an artifact for me whereas finecast models just feel like toys or ludo counters or something - certainly not something that I ever feel inclined to hold for any period of time and consequently will probably never really inspect in great detail.
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Phoenixphire
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I'm not a sworn fan to it, I'd prefer to have things in plastic over finecast, but since that is not an option, yeah I guess I do prefer it to metal.
I've had a few finecast sculpts, and some haven't been perfect - a few missing pieces in the boxes here and there, which has been a pain, as I live on an island with no actual GW store on. But only the one model that has actually just been a true disappointment
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Against my better judgement I picked up Festus a while back, and I have to say it was by far the easiest model I've dealt with from GW. At best, Finecast is inconsistent: too many issues, especially on release day for new models. And the issues are all things that should be caught by even modest quality assurance.

As far as the weight difference go, it's going to be down preference. You can always add ballast to a base to weigh it down to the point that you're comfortable, I often do this for "awkward" models with large heavy pieces like Standard Bearers to keep them balanced. In general though, I'd much rather have light models, 100 pewter models on a display board for a weekend tournament, plus all of the assorted gaming paraphernalia is just not my cup of tea.

But ultimately, I go for what looks best. I can deal with weight, as long as I like the sculpt.
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Apollo3
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I prefer a model that a slight breeze won't send flying. Also, far too many problems with miscasts. That said, some of the models I really want seem to be only available in finecast, so I'll probably end up getting a few at some point. I'll just have to weigh down the bases or something.

Q: Has anyone tried stripping the paint off a finecast model? What did you use, and what were the results?
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snyggejygge
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I liked it for my 2:nd hellcannon & can see its use for big models, but sadly I've seen too many failcasts, with airbubbles or details gone entirely missing. So for me it's ok, but with the price increase atached to it I can't help but vote pretty bad.
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H4d35
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Yeah I was thinking of getting the hell cannon as it should work in finecast.

I've had mixed results, my Festus needed just a few little touches but some of my Orks have taken forever just to prepare. The Fenbeasts were pretty good casts as was the Nurgle lord on daemonic mount.

It's different to metal in some good ways but I'd like it if it was just a little heavier. A bit more meat to the casting would possibly prevent the bubbles but it'd definitely feel better in your hand when modelling it.
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Rusty Wintertooth
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All I have to offer is that I'm glad my army is nurgle so that all the terrible miscasts can be green stuffed a bit and a voila! Nurlge *insert any finecast crap here*

I love the pewter models, but from a gaming perspective I'm probably going to regret putting effort into painting them when someone knocks it off a table. . . :X
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Apollyon
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All of mine have been great, with fairly minimal flash and no defects that I can see besides being kindof bendy. That said, the same is not true for all, so I say 'good'
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Serroth
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I own two different chaos sorcerer models and the casting quality of both is very good. However, some parts of my plastic hellcannon are warped and many details are chipped.

So my experience with finecast is: never buy a plastic finecast miniature which has been a metal one before.
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abdulaapocolyps
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Genuinely, with how good some other manufacturers are getting, I don't know how people still buy GW stuff...
Finecast is obviously not as good as plastic, but hey, they wanted to save money, fair enough. The fact that GW are so anti customer with their marketing though makes me just care less about their minis...
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Meatgrinder
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Its fine since they cleaned up most of the problems with their casting. It was horrible when it first came out. I think its far too brittle, and is usuallly bent in one way or another, requiring a lot of careful effort to put right. I havent had any bad casts though, and no matter what, its still better than metal.
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theorox
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Apr 8 2013, 02:06 PM
I prefer a model that a slight breeze won't send flying.
Do you play Warhammer outdoors?

Theo
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