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| 3,000pt Tournament; March 30th | |
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| iggy666 | Mar 13 2013, 09:29 PM Post #1 |
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Mono Khorne; No Magic. 390 – Daemon Prince – Daemon of Khorne, Chaos Armor, Daemonic Flight, Dragonbane Gem, Charmed Shield, Sword of Striking, Scaled Skin, Flaming Breath, Soul Feeder. 195 - Exalted Hero – BSB, Mok, Enchanted Shield, Talisman of Preservation 120 – 4x5 Warhounds 370 – 17 Warriors – Mus/Ban, Mok, Halberds, Shields (BSB Here) 380 – 18 Warriors – Mus/Ban, Mok, Halberds, Shields 140 – Gorebeast Chariot – Mok 140 – Gorebeast Chariot – Mok 140 – Gorebeast Chariot – Mok 275 – Chimera – Regen, Flaming Breath 380 – 8 Ogres – Mok, GWs, Mus/Ban 210 – Hellcannon 264 – 3 Skullcrushers – EW, Mus/Ban, Banner of Eternal Flame 2994 I'm a little concerned that my BSB does not have a Champion to issue/accept challenges for him, but I needed to drop 10pts and he will probably be safer in a challenge than being possibly targetted by 3+3 supporting rank and file guys. Plan is to do Refused Flank and Feint Flank tactics. Chariot and Hellcannon guarding the weak flank with the Chimera and Daemon Prince feinted that flank, everything else on the other side. 14 Drops (including Characters); 8 Fortitude. Edited by iggy666, Mar 16 2013, 06:38 AM.
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| MyNameDidntFit | Mar 14 2013, 08:04 PM Post #2 |
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I wouldn't be worried about the BSB. Now that fighting unit champions is a good thing, I rarely bother with it unless I'm making a list that keeps in mind those dastardly Vampires, Wood Elves w/Annoyance of Netlings, etc that can be a right pain in the buttocks for our heroes. The list is looking good; the Hellcannon should be good to target the enemy wizard bunker from T1, hopefully putting pressure on those cowardly magic-using bastards. |
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| iggy666 | Mar 14 2013, 09:26 PM Post #3 |
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Oh man, I didn't even think of the fact that my BSB gets EotGs for killing champions xD. Hellcannon targetting wizard bunker. Check. |
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| daynewma | Mar 15 2013, 12:41 AM Post #4 |
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Move the flaming banner; the ensorcelled weapons are magical. It is debatable whether the juggernaughts can even take advantage of it, as their attacks are magical as well. In either case, the riders go first, so they won't break regen. |
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| iggy666 | Mar 15 2013, 12:48 AM Post #5 |
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Ensorcelled Weapons are not Magical Weapons, they are mundane weapons with magical attacks. The new book allows for this combination. |
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| adicto | Mar 15 2013, 04:40 PM Post #6 |
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You don't. You must kill a character or large monster to get a roll in the table. |
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| MyNameDidntFit | Mar 15 2013, 04:43 PM Post #7 |
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That... is the old book, my friend. "In addition, if a Chaos Champion kills an opponent in a challenge, or if he kills a monster, immediately make a 2D6 roll on the table below." |
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| Paperplane | Mar 15 2013, 05:29 PM Post #8 |
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Cant find anywere that they are mundane, but it doesnt say they are magic weapons either, only that its a upgrade. Although I would argue that a weapon that gives you magical attacks is in fact magical. |
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| iggy666 | Mar 15 2013, 09:11 PM Post #9 |
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"Attacks made with ensorcelled weapons are resolved at +1 Strength. In addition, these are magical attacks." 8th Edition WoC. "Ensorcelled weapons count as magical weapons and grant +1 Strength to the wielder." 7th Edition WoC. Ensorcelled weapons are no longer magical weapons, they simply have magical attacks like a Daemon Prince... who can still take flaming attacks. Same with the Juggernauts. |
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| Paperplane | Mar 16 2013, 05:35 AM Post #10 |
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Well my argument still stands, but I guess it can be seen in diffrent ways. |
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| iggy666 | Mar 16 2013, 06:13 AM Post #11 |
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You can argue that all you want... but Daemon Princes have magical attacks, not a magic weapon. Juggernauts have magical attacks, not a magic weapon. Can a Daemon Prince take Burning Body to gain Flaming Attacks? Because I paid 10pts for it in this same list and his rules are exactly the same as Ensorcelled Weapons (with the exception of the extra Strength) |
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| Harbinger | Mar 16 2013, 09:26 AM Post #12 |
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List seems pretty solid, although seeing as how i don't have access to the new book, i can't fully weigh in on it. From all the posts about armies with demon princes now, I'm assuming GW made them a viable lord option now? |
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| MyNameDidntFit | Mar 16 2013, 10:56 AM Post #13 |
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"Magical Weapon" is a specific category of weapon. If a weapon that does not come from the Magical Weapons choices in the BRB counts as a Magical Weapon, it will say so. To extrapolate an example: imagine an item called the Fiery Flail of Flaming Fire. Now, even though the name clearly implies the weapon is flaming, it still requires the rule Flaming Attacks to have any effect. My point being that names mean nothing and rules are not implied based on them. Magical attacks and Magical Weapons are two entirely different things. |
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| iggy666 | Mar 16 2013, 01:07 PM Post #14 |
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I contacted my gaming community's tournament organizer who agrees that ensorcelled weapons are not magic weapons. I did, however, exchange Acid Ichor and Burning Body for Sword of Striking on my Daemon Prince because it seems to be a more popular (and most likely superior) loadout. His sword will forever be painted like its on fire though :) |
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