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3k Khorne Infantry; Tournament
Topic Started: Mar 20 2013, 02:12 AM (489 Views)
iggy666
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Slayer of Neckbeards
395 – Daemon Prince – of Khorne, Chaos Armor, Daemonic Flight, Dragonbane Gem, Charmed Shield, Sword of Striking, Scaled Skin, Flaming Breath, Soul Feeder.
315 - Chaos Lord – MoK, Hellfire Sword, Helm of Many Eyes, Luckstone.
195 – Exalted Hero – MoK, BSB, Talisman of Preservation, Enchanted Shield.
385 – 17 Warriors – MoK, Halberds, Shields, FC, Standard of Discipline.
390 – 18 Warriors – MoK, Halberds, Shields, FC
90 – 3x5 hounds
275 – Chimera – Regen, Flaming Breath
135 – Warshrine - MoK
470 – 17 Chosen – MoK, Halberds, Shields, FC, Banner of Swiftness
342 – 4 Skullcrushers – EW, Mus/Ban, Banner of Eternal Flame

Hopefully the Skullcrushers will scare some of the damage away from the DP and Chimera. The lord in the warrior unit should spread the damage from the Chosen too.

Hows it look?
Edited by iggy666, Mar 21 2013, 09:54 AM.
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jerm20201
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I'd say up your chances for DPs via the shrine and get champs thrown into the warriors!

I really like the list though! Lots of hard hitting units! Personally I'm not a fan of the Hellcannon and would probably drop it for a 3 man Skullcrusher unit, but that's just cause I can never hit anything with the HC LOL
Edited by jerm20201, Mar 20 2013, 04:40 AM.
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iggy666
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I added the champions, and learned the DP cannot be buffed by the shrine. So I have a BSB and 3 champions being blessed, hoping for DPs but being fine with anything really.

I've never used the Hellcannon, but my scatter dice rolls Hit! a lot lol. Plus, I'm assuming in 3k pts there will be at least one horde or many units so I should be able to land somewhere. If not, it can still stop anything dead in its tracks on the flank.

Now I have 15pts left. I can give my BSB Flaming Attacks and Fear or I can give my Chosen +1M.
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Kormak
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As mush as I want to like to chosen I just can't see what they offer that chaos warriors don't.

At 3k I think your daemon prince is going to struggle to do anything, you lack the target saturation for him to get across the table.

Honestly, I think the list needs more support units.
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iggy666
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Well, the point of this army list is to make a list that incorporates Chosen, so they aren't going anywhere. I doubt I'll use this list for the tournament, but I'm trying to make a competitive list WITH Chosen.

What units do you have in mind when you say "support units"? Flankers? I was under the impression that Chariots were the best support units for Infantry.

What would you advise I do? Remove the Hellcannon, DP, and a chariot for a unit of Skullcrushers and a Lord on Jugger?
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Kormak
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The problem I have with gorebeast chariots is that they are to slow, because of this they are not going to draw fire away from your daemon prince and chimera, I would rather have additional chimeras.
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iggy666
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The chariots are supporting the infantry.

Would I be better off taking out the Chimera and DP? The focus of this army is infantry, should I take some marauders to bulk up the model count... instead of having flying monsters?
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datalink7
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Mono-Khorne at 3k will be hurting even more than at 2.5k or lower due to lack of magic. You really need the most aggressive list possible, IMO, in order to pull it off.

I'd drop the Warshrine to start. With no other magic you are NEVER going to get off the bound spell. Your champions most likely won't kill anyone, so you are just going to get the one time benefit for the initial chosen roll and maybe if your BSB kills someone. Not worth it.

I'd also drop the Gorebeast chariots, keeping with the "In your face" theme that is needed. Instead, get 2 more Chimera's. If you can, fit in one more Hellcannon so that you have some sort of ranged pressure since you don't have spells.

With a flying DP and 3x Chimera's, you'll have some quick pressure particularly if you all rush one or two units. Then the warriors can bring in the pain on turn 3 (about when they should arrive).

Just a suggestion.

Edit: Another option is to try to fit in some Skullcrushers, as they are quick. I'd still go with 2x chimera's first, but instead of another hellcannon maybe a unit of those. I think you can afford to drop 1 unit of hounds.
Edited by datalink7, Mar 20 2013, 09:26 AM.
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iggy666
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Umm... with no magic I am free to dump 6 dice into the Warshrine spell and hope for double 6s. More times than not, the enemy wont have 6 dispel dice.

DP and 2 Chimera soar forward while 3 blocks of elite warriors march across the battlefield supported by 2 Hellcannons.
Edited by iggy666, Mar 20 2013, 09:35 AM.
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rothgar13
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No love for the Lord of Khorne with the Hellfire Sword? Pretty sure you can afford him as well as the Daemon Prince, and that twosome will wreak some serious havoc.
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iggy666
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I love the Lord of Khorne with Hellfire Sword, I just normally use that guy on a Jugger and was not sure how to fit him into this list... maybe the whole Hellcannon idea was misguided.

My Hellfire Sword Khorne Lord is 400pts, I'll have to play around with this to make him only 355.

395 – Daemon Prince – of Khorne, Chaos Armor, Daemonic Flight, Dragonbane Gem, Charmed Shield, Sword of Striking, Scaled Skin, Flaming Breath, Soul Feeder.
350 - Chaos Lord – MoK, Juggernaut, Hellfire Sword, Dragonhelm.
195 - Exalted Hero – MoK, BSB, Talisman of Preservation, Enchanted Shield.
380 – 18 Warriors – MoK, Halberds, Shields, Mus/Ban
380 – 18 Warriors – MoK, Halberds, Shields, Mus/Ban
90 – 3x5 Warhounds
455 – 17 Chosen – MoK, Halberds, Shields, FC
135 – Warshrine – MoK
275 – Chimera – Regen, Flaming Breath
264 - 3 Skullcrushers – EW, FC

2919

I'm stuck here, that extra Lord sucked up a lot of points!
Edited by iggy666, Mar 20 2013, 12:55 PM.
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MyNameDidntFit
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Personally, as a guy who runs Chosen all the time, I'd say drop 4 of them. so you have a 7x2 unit once your character goes in there. Sure, you might lose a couple to shooting, but I've yet to lose more than that couple so I still make it with 6x2 at least when I hit combat. That's almost 90 points saved.

Not sure what you'd do with that. Maybe a Gorebeast? *shrug*
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iggy666
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13 Chosen... in 3,000pts? They will just die... maybe I'm more worried than I should be, I know my gaming group hates Skullcrushers but I'm pretty sure the damage would be shared between the DP, Crushers, and Chosen.
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MyNameDidntFit
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If they're getting hammered to the point that 4 models are left alive there's really not that much of a difference, though, is there? I've comfortably run 13 at 2250, 2400 and 3500 as part of my current build without issue and intend to continue to do so. Certainly they get a bit of attention, but so many people see them as just another block of killy, hard-as-nails infantry and so prefer to put their shooting into Chimeras, knights and other such fast things. I assume this would apply tenfold to a Daemon Prince (I'm probably the only WoC player yet to run one).

I can certainly say that any player I know would aim first for the DP and second for the Skullcrushers WITH CHAOS LORD that's bearing down on them rather than the 'bit killier Warrior' unit.

Also you run them MoK so your the same as my MoS in that Panic isn't an issue either, so the smaller unit doesn't fall apart there.
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rothgar13
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I actually think you should consider the Khorne Hellfire Sword Lord on foot, as he will add some serious pop to a unit of Warriors or Chosen, and the usual tricks to protect him (namely the Charmed Shield) are being used by the Daemon Prince. Namely, I'd go with this:

Chaos Lord, Hellfire Sword, Helm of Many Eyes, Luckstone, Potion of Foolhardiness, Shield, gifts at your discretion
Edited by rothgar13, Mar 21 2013, 02:24 AM.
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