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| Tweet Topic Started: May 29 2013, 09:40 PM (578 Views) | |
| amadiss | May 29 2013, 09:40 PM Post #1 |
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The Chosen
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Greetings. I've read several times that you can shutdown warmachines by casting spells such as Acquiescence or Cacophonic choir. I don't understand how this is so, would someone explain please? |
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| Asael | May 29 2013, 10:13 PM Post #2 |
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Warrior of the Chamber
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They give Random Movement (D6). So, the WM has to move and can't shoot this turn. |
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| Kaedron | May 29 2013, 10:16 PM Post #3 |
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The Chosen
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Warmashines can't move and fire. Random Movement means you have to move. You do the math. As a reminder, random movement means you can't charge or move normaly. At the beginning of the compulsory movement phase, you turn the unit in any direction and than move forward the distance random movement specifies (in the case of these spells, d6"). |
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| Calamity | May 29 2013, 10:23 PM Post #4 |
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Clanlord
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u can still charge in a sense if ur within 6inchs n they roll a 6. U just don't get the choice 2 flee as a normal charge since its rdm movement much like the hell pit from skaven |
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| amadiss | May 29 2013, 11:30 PM Post #5 |
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The Chosen
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So, I see thr BRB says "Units with random movement always move during the compulsory movements phase". I guess this is the relevant sentence, isn't it? I always thought this means that you cannot move during any other subphase but not that you actually have to move. |
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| Kurrilino | May 29 2013, 11:51 PM Post #6 |
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Exalted Guardian
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my question is, would pivoting count as movement ???? The purpose of that question, I turn their warmachine to take the next shooting phase away. If the opponent wanna shoot, he would have to turn the warmachine again. Would that pivoting count as 2nd move ? Edited by Kurrilino, May 29 2013, 11:52 PM.
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| MyNameDidntFit | May 30 2013, 01:00 AM Post #7 |
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The Dark Prince
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No. Warmachines may pivot and shoot as per the BRB. The part of Random Movement that makes them unable to shoot is that they must move at least 1". An even bigger plus is that they charge, flee and pursue with their 1d6" movement, as I understand it. |
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| Wulfrik | May 30 2013, 01:37 AM Post #8 |
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The Chosen
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Yes, that is correct. Adds just another layer of nastiness to both of those spells, doesn't it? |
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| Kal | May 30 2013, 01:41 AM Post #9 |
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The Chosen
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This could be fun! Especially against dwarf gunlines |
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| amadiss | May 30 2013, 01:41 AM Post #10 |
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The Chosen
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Applying this to STanks means that as long as they have one or more Steam points, they must use at least one for movement. |
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| Wulfrik | May 30 2013, 02:05 AM Post #11 |
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The Chosen
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Actually, I just looked up the rules for Steam Tanks, and I've just made a very strange discovery. Giving the Steam Tank Random Movement doesn't hurt it at all. In fact, it actually helps the Stank. From the Empire book, with the relevant part underlined: This is quite a bit similar to the Chosen - Warshrine thing, where they can roll four dice instead of three at the beginning of the game. It's not setting how many D6's you roll, but rather adding D6's to the total. Essentially, throw that spell onto a Steam Tank, and (provided Choir doesn't kill it) you've just given it an extra D6" to charge with. |
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| Flint13 | May 30 2013, 03:18 AM Post #12 |
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Predator of the Northern Wastes
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Makes sense. If a slaaneshi wizard is dubstepping at me, I'd want to run him down that much more |
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| amadiss | May 30 2013, 06:38 AM Post #13 |
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The Chosen
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I think you would replace its special movement with 1d6, but not add one more. I'm not sure. |
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| MyNameDidntFit | May 30 2013, 11:07 AM Post #14 |
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The Dark Prince
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Yup. I've saved many a unit from certain death by Acquiesencing their opponent in a round where I know they're going to break. It's hard to be 2d6 with 1d6 :D And catching the poor enemy fools, of course. |
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| Wulfrik | May 30 2013, 02:02 PM Post #15 |
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The Chosen
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Like I said, the way it's worded, it would logically work like that. Again, exact wording from the book: Now, it's rather obvious that they didn't intend for this weird little loophole (I mean, how could they?). But as many people say: RAW always trumps RAI. |
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