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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 5 2013, 04:28 AM (1,112 Views) | |
| Lord Commander | Jun 5 2013, 04:28 AM Post #1 |
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I am currently building a list for a tournament and have a penchant for the tactical versatility of the Slaanesh lore. Whether it be Acquiescence on a warmachine or a Cacophonic Choir in the front lines in is devastating. I am trying to figure out the best conduit/build for getting a level 4 Slaanesh caster in my ranks. The main options I see are: - Daemon Prince (crazy expensive and fragile so probably not using this one) - Putting him in a unit (less chance for a devastating cacophonic choir but more protected/ cheaper) - On a fast cav mount with a fast cav unit (relatively cheap and really fast but still very fragile) - Solo on a Daemonic Mount (getting all the defensive options add up, but is more defensible than a Dp as well as cheaper) Which one of these options have you used/ think will have success? I am personally leaning on putting him in a unit. |
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| Jediknight620 | Jun 5 2013, 04:58 AM Post #2 |
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A build I've used a few time with success has been: -Level 4 -Daemonic Steed (w/barding) -Chaos Familiar -Tali of Pres -Charmed Shield -Ogre Blade His offensive capabilities are absolutely disgusting with the Ogre Blade. If he gets some powerful spells off and does some good damage, his combat stats get pretty nuts. And even if he doesn't, he's still got a Chaos Warrior's stat line with S6 and a 1+/4+ not too mention being T5. There is a little bit of luck involved with the timing of the spells and needing 6s, but I really enjoy that aspect to the lore attribute. Plus, its not like the actual magic lore is below average or anything. ;) |
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| Lord Commander | Jun 5 2013, 05:06 AM Post #3 |
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That comes up to 435 points (ouch) If he is flying solo wouldn't he lose to static combat res? |
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| Lord Commander | Jun 5 2013, 05:15 AM Post #4 |
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Sorcerer Lord- 370 Mark of Slaanesh Steed of Slaanesh LvL 4 Talisman of Preservation Chaos Familiar *with 5 Marauder Horsemen- 70 Daemon Prince- 440 Daemon of Slaanesh Daemonic Flight Chaos Armor Charmed Shield Scaly Skin Dragonbane Gem Level 3 Sorcerer Lord-345 Level 4 Talisman of Preservation Charmed Shield Chaos Familiar Which one of these 3 do you guys think is the best survivable/damage/cost ratio? |
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| Mattias | Jun 5 2013, 10:03 PM Post #5 |
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If you donīt have restriktions limiting your build for Daemon Princes he is the obvius chose. Deamon Prince of Slaanesh - 510 Level 4 Daemonic Flight Chaos armour Scaly skin Charmed Shield Dragonbane gem The Other tricksters shard OR Sword of Striking Chaos Familiar (so you allways get the spells you want) The idea is that you charge a target that you know canīt kill you and start casting random movement spells. Choir on lonely monsters and characters of course. Greater deamons die like flies of this spell and so those pendand lords and other pesky kritters. Once your random movement spells come throu and the opponents army are running around all over the board your hard hitting trops like scullcrushers can make the charge without being hindered and lured away by diverters. Try casting the upped version of the choir in the middle of the opponents army with 5 dices and se all monsters, small units, lonely characters and chariots die and the rest of the army going random movement... After that it is mopup time. |
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| Wulfrik | Jun 6 2013, 03:29 AM Post #6 |
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In my experience, you're much better off with 6 dice for that spell. Getting 20 on 5 dice isn't the most difficult thing to manage, but it's a little unsafe if your army's strategy revolves around getting Choir off. |
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| Dreadgrass | Jun 6 2013, 04:00 AM Post #7 |
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As another option to consider, you could potentially just put the sorcerer Lord on a barded (non-daemonic) steed in a unit of Chaos Knights? I just find that choir is more effective in the middle of the enemy, preferably whilst in combat thanks to the lore attribute. For me fast cav die too fast to really fill that role and whilst being able to bait and flee with a recurring choir-bomb (which I believe theres a topis on somewhere hereabouts) is great, it's probably even more vulnerable than a DP. If your running a fair number of monsters/trolls/etc. I personally love the Slaanesh DP. Even without flying he's quick and manoeuvrable, and hard to kill once he gets stuck in. I have 2 alternate builds or him, "cheap" and "fun" Cheap build is for a minimal character list to give me both magic defence/offense and a kickazz monster: Daemon Prince - 485pts - DoS, Lvl.4, Chaos Armour, Flame Breath(optional), Scaly Skin, Soul Feeder, Charmed Shield, Dragonbane Gem, Sceptre of Stability. The Fun build is all about maximum combat potential, combine Daemonsword with the lore attribute for a potential 16 S6AP attacks!: Daemon Prince - 520pts - DoS, Lvl.4, Chaos Armour, Daemonsword, Scaly Skin, SoulFeeder, Allure of Slaanesh, OTS, Dragonbane Gem, Charmed Shield |
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| Mattias | Jun 6 2013, 04:47 AM Post #8 |
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Sorry if you donīt have restrictions on magic dices you should of course use 6 dices. The Choir is not the army strategy (itīs just a bonus). The important bit is the random movement. Used right it will totaly disrupt your opponents plans and pin down important units. The frustration in a deamon players face when his Great unclean move d6 every turn is wonderful to behold. And used right the Deamon Prince is not that vulnerable. No you canīt charge everything out there but with fly you can choose your fights most of the times. |
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| Lord Commander | Jun 6 2013, 05:08 AM Post #9 |
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That is a really good Idea I never considered, I may just do that. |
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| Flint13 | Jun 6 2013, 06:09 PM Post #10 |
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Predator of the Northern Wastes
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Wow, before this thread, I have to admit hitting a Pendant of Kaelith dreadlord never occured to me. Now that I hear it, it makes perfect sense though... No armor saves, so 1+ armor save doesn't help, not flaming so dragonbane gem doesn't do anything, and doesn't have a strength value, so the pendant doesn't flare up. Even if it doesn't kill him outright, which is pretty likely, it would just make the peglord doodle around uselessly while you charge him with something good. |
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| amadiss | Jun 8 2013, 04:06 AM Post #11 |
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I thought about a unit with 9 hellstriders, champion, musician Lvl 4 Slaneesh on Steed of Slaneesh. Allure of Slaneesh, Talisman of preservation, Earthing rod, chaos familiar It is very expensive but to be fair it is also more than just a sorcerer and has potential for many different combos and support. |
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| Wockie | Jun 8 2013, 05:36 AM Post #12 |
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if you dont want to run the DP then i suggest one of the following for you Sorc Lord daemonic mount (for toughness 5) and then sit him in unit of knights for Look out sir and body guards. or if your worried about IF damage to the knights (which i would be!) use... MEDIUM cav. Daemonic Mount (T5) in 8 Marauder Horsemen (Light Armour and Shields for 4+) that gives you a fairly armoured and cheap body guard for Look out sir, and also they are more expendable if you want to 6 dice and the inevitable IF table. You do lose fast cav, but then unless you go steed of slaanesh you would lose fast cav as soon as the Sorc joined them on a barded steed or daemonic steed, so you may as well take the extra armour. MoS also means they wont panic from enemy fire. I run my Lvl 4 Nurg Sorc Lord in a medium cav bunker at the moment for these reasons Edited by Wockie, Jun 8 2013, 05:37 AM.
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| MyNameDidntFit | Jun 8 2013, 10:28 AM Post #13 |
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You've got two Arcane Items in there, I'm afraid. The Chaos Familiar comes from the Gifts allowance, but still takes up the slot. |
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| Lord Commander | Jun 8 2013, 11:14 AM Post #14 |
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I do not think that this is true. |
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| amadiss | Jun 8 2013, 11:55 AM Post #15 |
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Well, the book has the example that "you can not have a demonblade plus another magic weapon". So I would rather do:chaos familiar -> scaled skin. Thats 596 points. |
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