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2400 Tzeentch (Warshrine Idiocy)
Topic Started: Sep 24 2013, 12:18 AM (286 Views)
Mbh
The Chosen
2400

Sorcerer Lord (MOT) – Level 4 on metal, Talisman of preservation, Dragon helm, Third eye, Scroll

Exalted (MOT) – halberd, Talisman of endurance, Charmed shield, scaled skin, Disc of Tzeentch

Exalted (MOT) – BSB, Armor of Destiny, shield, Daemonic steed

17 Warriors (MOT) – Full command, standard of discipline, hand weapon and shield

Chariot
Chariot
5 warhounds – vanguard
5 Marauder horsemen

Warshrine (MOT)
Chimera – breath weapon, regeneration
5 Chosen (MOT) – Champion, standard, halberd, shield
5 Chosen (MOT) – Champion, standard, halberd, shield
6 Trolls


First of all, this list is no where near optimal but it is fun. The idea is to use the warshrine to turn one of the Chosen champions into a daemon prince. I used to run the list with a lord on a disc and a level 2 for magic defense, but I recently switched to a level 4 so I don’t get totally murdered at a tournament.

The characters are pretty tough to kill and the unit of warriors can be a decent anvil (especially with glittering robes). They don’t have a lot of killing power but I try make up for that with the trolls and chariots.

My main issue with the list right now is the trying to get the most out of the little units of chosen. I want to run them 5 wide to maximize attacks but they are terrible to try to maneuver around everything else. Should I try to run just one medium sized unit of chosen with the BSB or is there a better way to use the small units?

Remember, this list does suck but I would like to upgrade it to slightly less terrible.


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Kurrilino
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i would change the talisman.
The Exhalted on disc will be way earlier in battle than your lvl 4.
Same with 3rd eye.
Use the warshrine to upgrade the lvl4 wardsave to3++
Leave the Chimera at home since it has absolutely no cover behind anything.
Take Throgg instead since you are running trolls
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pszczesn
The Chosen
Kurrilino
Sep 24 2013, 03:32 AM
Leave the Chimera at home since it has absolutely no cover behind anything.
what do you mean by that? He got 5W 3+ward Shrine and 4+regen trolls ?
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Asvaldir
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I feel like your list is a little lacking in hitting power. Kurrillino's suggestion might help. Throgg gives you a very solid combat character to back up the trolls instead of the chimera which can be a glass cannon. Also a gorebeast would be a good addition if you are willing to drop something. Maybe the 2nd exalted hero?
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Mbh
The Chosen
good suggestions

I have run Throgg in the past. I could probably add him and another troll if I tweak the characters. Maybe I could put the bsb on a disc to include Throgg.


the chimera is kinda fun to use but I gree that it's a glass hammer.


I'm a little reluctant to remove third eye and the 3 up ward on my lord. I keep him with the warriors, so he gets in combat just about every game. It's also nice to keep him safe from miscasts. idk....
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Kurrilino
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pszczesn
Sep 24 2013, 04:36 AM
Kurrilino
Sep 24 2013, 03:32 AM
Leave the Chimera at home since it has absolutely no cover behind anything.
what do you mean by that? He got 5W 3+ward Shrine and 4+regen trolls ?
warshrine and Trolls can't catch a canon ball.
Chimera is a large target if i remember right and doesn't get
any cover bonus at all.

So a Chimera without any DP or something large is an easy target to
shoot down in round1
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Kurrilino
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Mbh
Sep 24 2013, 05:22 AM
good suggestions

I have run Throgg in the past. I could probably add him and another troll if I tweak the characters. Maybe I could put the bsb on a disc to include Throgg.


the chimera is kinda fun to use but I gree that it's a glass hammer.


I'm a little reluctant to remove third eye and the 3 up ward on my lord. I keep him with the warriors, so he gets in combat just about every game. It's also nice to keep him safe from miscasts. idk....
Put your wizzard on a disc. This way he can hide from most stuff.
That keeps the close combat gear free for the real close combat guys.

The Tzeench BSB belongs on a demonic mount to power him up to lord stats
for little points.

In general this list lacks some punching power and is incredible slow mixed
with very fast units. You have nothing between.

The disc guys will be in combat very early and the support units need at least to round 4 to be effectice
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Mbh
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I know the list sucks. I'm not really looking to overhaul everything though. I'm not sure I'm skilled enough to put my wizard on a disc and keep casting spells while keeping him safe.

maybe I should go back to a level 2 or no magic and take a lord. Lord on disc, bsb on deamon steed, and throgg could be fun.

What are the in between units in terms of speed? I know the shrine and warriors are slow but I like the models.
Edited by Mbh, Sep 24 2013, 06:10 AM.
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Kurrilino
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Everything mounted would be between
Flyers 10/20
Knights as example 7/14, Skullcrushers 7/14
Warriors 4/8
chariots 7/8

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Mbh
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Ahhhh

got it

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GeneralofChaos42
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Your gambling on the chosen, but if it pays off? Hello Daemon Prince.

Now why I like a Tz Warshrine...
A] I love how it can block line of sight and give off -2 hard cover save
B] These guys refuse to die, got to love that.
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Mbh
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yup

I have done it a bunch of times. The daemon prince has definitely saved the game more than once.
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pszczesn
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Kurrilino
Sep 24 2013, 05:42 AM
Trolls can't catch a canon ball
Trolls can catch cannon ball as they are monstrous infantry anyway i understand where you coming from.
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