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Topic Started: Nov 6 2009, 07:29 AM (6 Views)
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Shalom,

Scripture references are from,
The SET (Stone Edition Tanach) or the CJB (Complete Jewish Bible) for the OT
and the PNT (Power New Testament ) for the NT unless otherwise specified.


Hbr 13:5 For He said, “I will not abandon you and I will not ever forsake you,” (Dt 31:6, Jos 1:5) 6. so that we are confident to say,
“The Lord is my helper,
and I will not be afraid,
what will man do to me?” (Ps 118:6)


As I look through this final chapter of the book written to the Hebrews I can see an almost random nature to it. It can appear as if the writer is just skipping back and forth through what he has written to make sure that he ties up all loose ends before he mails (sends) it. It is easier to accept this view if paragraphs are placed in different locations in one's reading of this. Understanding that the punctuation and paragraphs, which we so quickly accept today as standard, were first inserted in 1551 and not by the original writers themselves gives us the leeway to change things as I am suggesting! It also helps us to make sense of some comments that really make little to no sense if you are not either a Jew or one who reads The Scriptures in order to "Study to shew thyself approved" (2 Tim 2:15 - KJV).

As I look at this chapter I could easily disjoint this passage to read...
Hbr 13:5 For He YHVH said (...), “I will not abandon you and I will not ever forsake you,” (Dt 31:6, Jos 1:5) 6. so that we are confident to say,
“The Lord is my helper,
and I will not be afraid,
what will man do to me?” (Ps 118:6)

I could easily just remove these verses and allow them to stand by themselves as they are, with the first "HE" replaced by the word "YHVH" as I have added as an aid for our understanding as to whom HE is and the separation "(...)" between the introductory portion and the balance of the passage. I could easily extract this passage and make a sign to hang on the wall inside my house.
Could you?
Am I loony or can you see how this could be done as well?
For He YHVH said (...), “I will not abandon you and I will not ever forsake you,”
so that we are confident to say,
“The Lord is my helper, and I will not be afraid, what will man do to me?”


So with that said take the time to notice verrrrry carefully that which YHVH is saying.
HE will never leave nor forsake you!
Take note however of what HE did NOT say as well. HE did NOT say that YOU would not or could not ever leave HIM! In fact we have seen throughout the New Testament; the brit hadash, that it is entirely possible for YOU to choose to no longer look to YHVH for your salvation; to no longer follow the leading of HIS HOLY SPIRIT; to no longer allow HIS WORD to be true in your life.
It is entirely possible for YOU to ignore the example of a HOLY life; which is a life totally dedicated to YHVH as you have seen through the life of YHVH's Firstborn Son, Y'SHUA and to walk YOUR own way!
It is entirely possible!

I have heard some state something to the effect...
I would NEVER turn from YHVH! I would NEVER forsake HIS ways and teachings!
Yeah...well let’s put you in a garden late at night and tell you that you are about to be put in an old Roman style of prison; be beaten and then nailed to a cross for no reason other than the fact that you believe the brit hadash to be true and then actually enforce this and we'll watch to see how you stand behind your words! Okay?
Let's put you literally and totally into what we call the "Passion Week" just to see how much you really believe what you say?
Let's see how as you hang and die upon the cross you trust that YHVH will never forsake you and more importantly how YOU would never forsake HIM!

When faced with this very same scenario Y'SHUA said...
Lk 22:42. saying, “Father, if You are willing You must now take this cup from Me: nevertheless not My will, but Yours must continually be done.”
It was NOT the will nor the desire of Y'SHUA to go through this and yet YOU think you could handle it?

In the midst of His crucifixion Y'SHUA proclaimed to YHVH...
Mt 27:46. And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice saying in Hebrew, “Eli! Eli! L’mah sh’vaktani?” This is, “My God! My God! Why have You utterly forsaken Me?” (Ps 22:1)

How long do you really think it would take you to make such a proclamation?
I am not trying to discourage you but to get you to take a realistic stance!
The Scriptures declare that you COULD choose to turn from YHVH. Be real with your self and with others and see that you really could!
That it is possible for you or others to still reject YHVH.
Also be real enough to see that HE would still love and care for you and desire for you to still turn again to HIM, to call upon HIM and to trust HIM for your salvation. That it is not, "what you can do"; that it is not about whether you would or would not turn from or forsake HIM but it is that HE will never turn from nor forsake you.
Even if you did turn from HIM HE is looking to see you when you come home again...
Lk 15:17. And then he came to himself and said, ‘How many hired hands of my father abound in food, but I am dying here in a famine. 18. When I get up I will go to my father and I will say to him, “Father, I sinned against heaven and before you, 19. I am no longer worthy to be called your son: you must make me as one of your hired hands.’” 20. Then after he got up he went to his own father. And while he was still a great distance away his father saw him and was sympathetic and then he ran and fell upon his neck and kissed him. (The Prodigal Son)
YHVH will never forsake you!

The question HE desires to know of us is NOT will you ever forsake HIM but what would you do if you did turn from HIM?
Acts 13:22. and after He removed him He raised David for them as king, of whom He also said when He bore testimony, ‘I found David the son of Jesse, a man according to My heart, who will do all My will.’ (1Sam 16:12,13, Ps 89:20, Is 44:28)
Would YHVH say this of you?
Would you return to HIM?
Would you continually seek after HIM; after the heart of YHVH?
Would it deeply bother you?
Would you wallow in your decision and self pity or would you look to the Heavens for your salvation?
Rev 12:7. And there was a war in heaven, Michael (Dn 10:13,21, 12:1) and his angels made war with the dragon. And the dragon and his angels battled, 8. but he was not strong enough and a place for them was still not found in heaven. 9. And the great dragon, the old serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, the one who deceived the entire inhabited world, was cast to the earth, (Is 14:12) and his angels were cast with him. 10. And I heard a loud voice in heaven saying,
Now has come the salvation and the power
and the kingdom of our God
and the authority of His Messiah,

because the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down,
the one who had accused them before our God
day and night. (Job 1:9-11, Zch 3:1)
11. And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb
and because of the word of their testimony
and they did not love their life even to the enduring of death itself.


Some will endure such a battle, others will not!
Those who do will finally see their salvation come!
They do not yet have their salvation; it is still but a Promise of YHVH to come but they are Believers (Rom 13:11).
They Believe that YHVH will do the things that HE has said that HE will do. They have faith!
They Believe that HE has already provided HIS final Yom Kippur Lamb to atone for their sins.
Now they await the return of The HIGH PRIEST from behind The Heavenly veil signifying the completion of the offering and the acceptance of the offering.
While they are waiting, they fight!
They battle with the world, with satan actually and with their self. Some may die along the way while still holding strongly on to the Belief that YHVH will never forsake them. Others will turn from their Belief and die trying to save their self. Yet others may never taste of death and endure until the return of their salvation; until the return of The CHRIST to fulfill the final three feasts that YHVH had given to Israel as a sign of things to come. They shall endure the fight until Y'SHUA's return, not as The CHRIST but as The MESSIAH, the One who will bring them their salvation!

Rom 13:8. You must continually not owe anything to anyone except love to one another: for the one who loves the other has fulfilled Torah. 9. Truly “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” (Ex 20:13-15, 17) and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this word, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” (Lv 19:18) 10. Love does not work evil to the neighbor: therefore love is fulfillment of Torah.
13:11. And this, since we know the season, that this is the moment now for you to be raised up from sleep, for now our salvation is nearer than when we first believed. 12. The night has advanced, and the day has drawn near. Therefore we should put off the works of darkness, and we should put on the weapons of light.

Rosh Hashanah; the time of self examination is here! See if you have any ought towards another; see if you have any sin within your life and make amends.
Yom Kippur is drawing nigh when the final shofar is blown; the offering is made and completed before YHVH.
When The HIGH PRIEST appears or should I say, shortly after Y'SHUA appears Sukkot; the Feast of Tabernacles; the time of eternal partying will begin!

YHVH has sent out all of HIS invitations at that point and received all of HIS RSVP's.
Did you return HIS offering of love or is your invitation still sitting on the table?
Is it lost upon your desk to be completed later?
Have you already trashed it?
It's not too late!
Pick up your cell phone and call YHVH.
HE is anticipating your response to HIS offering?
What say ye?
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The more I wander through the wilderness which is this life, the more I understand the frustrations of YHVH as HE seeks for a people that will give HIM HIS due glory!

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