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| A Response to Inactivity | |
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| Topic Started: Dec 14 2008, 08:29 PM (1,572 Views) | |
| Axel | Dec 14 2008, 08:29 PM Post #1 |
PK Bat To The Face
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So, I'm pretty sure everyone's noticed that we've become incredibly inactive. Nobody cares to touch the RPG. I assume it's because no one's interested in our current system. Therefore, I'm willing to rehaul into the new popular-voted roleplay format. Of course, I'm not an admin. So, I'm trying to see which staff are still around and would be interested in a renewal of EXEW. PZ is not really in the mood to do anything anymore because time and time again, our community has given popular approval but shallow response. The rest of the staff feel this way too, and thus they're unsure at the idea of trying again. In fact, some of the staff are fine with the idea of just easing into death. Everyone thought 2.0 was cool, but it died out in a year. The current system, 3.0, died out even in quicker, even though the membership didn't question PZ's speedy unraveling of the new RPG. It's just been one disappointment one after the other. It's kind of difficult for me to write this, because when I first joined this place, I felt like it was invincible; that I would see it through high school -- at the time I signed up, I was still in middle school. It was a very well built community, with a strong, down-to-earth cast. I didn't feel afraid of talking to anyone, and no one was afraid to talk to me -- it wasn't perfect, but in a way, that's what made it perfect. It's unlike some of the new communities today; beautiful, shimmering skins and high levels of rhetoric, but soulless, with elitist English teacher staff and flimsy, droning plots. What's holding us together right now is our community. Were like a lounge right now, but we're in good need of a scrub. I'd like to see our roleplay be as strong as our community. And that's why I need to know if you guys are interested. Even if I end up being the only person working, I wouldn't mind as long as you guys care. Are you willing to take up spots as active membership? If you commit, please don't let it be an empty promise. And if you have suggestions, please, tell us anything you can think of, whatever crosses your mind. If you find the current system to be flat out boring, or the idea of a roleplay system to be flat out boring, raise your hand and slap me across the face, hard. But please give us a suggestion we can build off of; more in the mind of your community, and not yourself. If you guys don't care, that's fine. But I don't want EXEW to die if I can help it. The way we're slipping is pathetic. I don't want to see my first roleplay die so soundlessly. I owe something to the people here. Whatever response you all have, thank you for all these years. I will accept whatever fate is given to us. Axel |
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| SaitoHikari | Dec 15 2008, 05:21 AM Post #2 |
Boom.
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I'm willing to help out. This year's my last year in high school, and I'd like EXEW to remain even after I go to college. Seriously, I don't want it to end here. And I agree with the roleplay-centered RPG. Christmas vacation for me starts on the 19th of December, which is the 18th for almost all of you, during which I'll do my best to be active. |
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| Ejsaxdude | Dec 15 2008, 12:06 PM Post #3 |
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Well, as a staff member I'm willing to help out in any way that I can as well. I'm still pretty active, but I haven't been on EXEW lately since it's been so dead. We need the members here as well, so if anyone still cares and doesn't want this to die then they need to say something. |
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| Death the Kid | Dec 15 2008, 06:27 PM Post #4 |
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I KNOW for a fact I'm the only one that's on virtually every second I can be, out of sheer habit. I've seen things slow down to the point I only glance at this page for new things every hour. I don't want it to die, so I'm willing to act if necessary. An idea could be to make this site open to all genres of MM, but that would mean much more moderation and stuff...Maybe revive the old styles of battles, just so people can have fun, nothing too serious about it? |
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| PhantomRiku | Dec 16 2008, 12:26 AM Post #5 |
Thumbs down bro
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I think we can all agree that EXEW has had a good run and that we, both as a memberbase and a staff have carried it long beyond the death point. However, I personally feel, both as a member and an administrator that I’d like to extend that death point a little longer. Now, I know we suffer from an almost nonexistent, non-active member group, but it pains me somewhat to see the site I put so much time into, and so much effort into in the short time I was a staffer to dwindle off so quickly. I’ve only been an administrator for so long, but I honestly found it enjoyable to staff, admin, and think up ideas and put them into fruition for the site and its RPG. I know I am willing to spend some of my limited time trying to bring it back to somewhere near the hey-day, and as my break is coming up soon I can spend a good amount of time working out problems. But I need to know, 100%, that this is not going to be an utter waste of my time. There is absolutely no point in trying to revive this grand site when there’s at most maybe 3 members on at a time. That’s just ridiculous, and no matter how hard I or the entire staff tries, there’s not going to be a future if we can’t work together as a memberbase and create some stable community. Half of FEFF, one of our partner sites doesn’t give a damn about the RPG, but they have a thriving, bustling community because people care enough to come on and actually talk. Bottom line, we need a memberbase before we can start anything. I understand what Axel is saying and that working towards that RPG revamp could work in our favor, but we need to know that there’s a hope that we can have at least a semi-active group; else, as much as it pains me to say it, the deathpoint is now and we’ll stay in the purgatory we are now, with a lonesome one member online most of the time. We need people. |
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| KamikazeLord | Dec 17 2008, 01:21 PM Post #6 |
Don't think. Feel.
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I'm going to parrot here; EXEW's lost it's flair because as PR has eloquently put it, "We need people." I can safely say that about the RPG I cannot give a flying shit, nor can I give a grounded one. I can delude myself with blatant ego stroking, but when I lay the cards on the table and come face to face with truth, I come here because I like talking and communicating with all of you bastards, each and every single fucking one of you. If I'm going to lose sleep and stretch brain cells to make an RPG for a forum, I had better damn well see more of you faggots being social, instead of the people I can count on one hand with my dick in the other. Yes, I realize I might be grossly breaking the rule of Too Much Fucking Information and the cursing one, but this situation warrants it, and if it's needed I will warn myself. |
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| Zero | Dec 17 2008, 02:57 PM Post #7 |
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I hardly have any right to post here after swearing to myself I wouldn't let EXEW die and then giving up my staff position due to lack of interest, but I think you guys are forgiving enough to allow it. Anyways, I agree with everything you're saying, but it's somewhat of a catch 22. You need members to invest time in revamping the site, but it's hard to attract new members unless we have something to show for ourselves. I can't say I blame you for not wanting to take the time to redo things, though, after what happened with 2.0 and 3.0. I believe that one of the main reasons why it's harder to find new members these days is because, simply, there are neither new MMBN nor MMX games being produced. True, there is a large MMX fanbase and people that still like MMBN, but when there's no new official content, interest becomes subdued and the urge to go out and find new things in the community starts to disappear. That said, I wouldn't mind turning this site into a roleplay community. In fact, I'd even come back and participate. Maybe if you guys wanna have some sort of large MSN chat we could brainstorm some ideas for how to, perhaps, take either or both of the two universes this site has followed and modify them to give them a feel that's more original and conducive to roleplaying. I do think that the days of the message board RPG (or at least MMBN-based ones) are coming to an end, but I think there's always a place for roleplaying. Winter break is coming up, so we should be able to get something done. I guess I should elaborate a bit on what I meant by modifying the universes. To start, we might want to abolish the idea of Battle Chips. Sure, they were a critical part of the games, but no one really used them outside of stat battles and it's a lot more limiting. Also, one thing I liked a lot in the manga that never really got covered in the games is an actual physical connection between operator and navi during Full Synchro. Sure, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but it makes more sense why non-official Netbattles are illegal and it also makes the whole concept of virus busting more risky instead of just trying to prove your manliness by playing a children's card game. Something like that. Edit: I somehow forgot that EXEW changed to an MMX theme. In any case, I think the BN universe is a lot more interesting for RPing in than X, so I would also suggest switching back. =/ Edited by Zero, Dec 17 2008, 10:03 PM.
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| Feez | Dec 20 2008, 01:57 AM Post #8 |
Persona!
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I'm fine with replacing the whole RPG scene with an RP scene, but I wouldn't want the whole place to be ONLY role-playing. Anyways, I can safely say that I do not give two shits about the RPG here, really. I joined a group and everything just to promote activity, and I even made myself a character and what have you. I come here mostly just to talk about stuff; PZ and PR are staff here and both of them are my good friends so I come here to spark up activity on their forum. It really sucks to see this place dying, and I even made a topic in the suggestions forum earlier. It's not hard for me to be active here; it's just a matter of opening another tab on Firefox. But why bother when nothing new happens and no one posts anything? I'm willing to be active and help the place out. Hopefully things go well. Winter break is amongst us so let's make the place rise up again. 
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| KamikazeLord | Dec 20 2008, 03:43 AM Post #9 |
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Feez you faggot you forgot me. 
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| Feez | Dec 20 2008, 04:45 AM Post #10 |
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Sorry how could I do that.
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| KamikazeLord | Dec 20 2008, 04:46 AM Post #11 |
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Because you suck.
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| Shiroko[Zen] | Dec 20 2008, 07:08 PM Post #12 |
I began The Ruin
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Well, there isnt much that I can really say though I need a new cpu before anything so that I may get back in the swing of things on here. Been on EXEW since middle school and I would prefer for it to live on. I'll do whatever I can to revive this place. Just give the word. And with that said, see you soon. |
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| Sharpman | Dec 24 2008, 07:10 AM Post #13 |
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Yeah, I'd really like to see this place bustling again, that's why I left the second time (...). That and my increadibly busy life. However, it is now the break, so I AM FREE TO HELP. We had a pretty good run when I helped with RPs before (...) so I am here! But let's not sit around and talk, let's DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I mean, we could have the open RPG for people who want it, and Stat based ladder format for others. But, I would just like to say this about stat based: Look at everybody now. I guarantee there are maybe 2-3 people in the level 1 range right now, and the overflow of people with insane power (level 20 range) may scare new members off. It kinda made me not really want in the RPG. I know that the people who are those levels worked to get there, but did they actually earn EXP in the new system, or get it all by being in 2.0? That's what I don't know. Anyway, just some food for thought. And I agree with the fact that in terms of RPing, MMBN beats X. But, there's no need to say that X can't be included, not by any means. Do what you want, make it open perhaps. I remember the good old days of 2.0, that was a fun system. So much customizability, and with this one, not so much. I'm not bashing it. I'm just sayin. SO. I'm here to help, like I said. But I want a ladder stat based battle system as well. I love those. But let's keep the RP. Oh, and perhaps 
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| HI_alchemist | Dec 25 2008, 07:35 PM Post #14 |
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FEFF has been hacked, so many will migrate here. Until my book unites them again. Well anyways, I guess I'll advertise for this place more on my website. |
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| Feez | Dec 25 2008, 07:41 PM Post #15 |
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FEFF hasn't been hacked...are you stupid or something? |
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| Chibi Goku | Dec 26 2008, 04:20 PM Post #16 |
Yes, it's that damn cute
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If you think there's a chance, go for it. Give it a month or two and see what happens. If things don't pick up it might be time to put it to rest and move on. In my personal view(and I'm sure some people, still here or not, will agree) is that the downward fall started with the whole idea of 2.0. Yes, I know I'm well known for my hatred of it but looking at things now you have to face the fact that this began there. Even without it this still would have happened sooner or later. Remember, 1.0 was fun even if it was super easy to one shot people with only a few days of wins. 1.5 fixed the cheapness, made it more difficult to kill people easily and added a few new elements to the style. At the next system change this was all lost(minus adding new elements but those were lost when the system failed). I'm not gonna say I told you so because at the time a system change WAS needed, but not in the direction it went. Now we come to the second nail in the coffin, converting boards. Yes we didn't have root admin access but I never got a reply to why it was needed. We'd gotten by fine for a good two years without it. Invisionfree just created un-needed problems, and the forum lost a number of old members in the transfer-even those that were still on edge about the system change might have decided to drop out at this point. Granted by this time alot of the older members had to deal with real life things like jobs or higher schooling so that just adds to the losses. Third nail is a double, converting to another forum system and changing the whole aspect of EXEW to X series which while it has a massive fanbase is just too limited on what you can really do. The BN series had some limitedness to it but you could freely expand on what you had and create some new elements at the same time. In terms of following the games you had some free room to branch off and add new plotlines for old faces where as in the X series it was "Beat the robot bosses, go here, zero gets destroyed by playing the sac-hero, beat sigma, end story, sigma comes back in some fucked up form without explaining how. Start next game" Seriously, it's limited and you can't limit RP without creating some major issues. That leaves the fourth and final nail which doesn't exist at this time. My thought, assuming you can get member support. NOT IDEA SUPPORT, actual support after the ideas are put into motion. Is to return to BN format, perhaps return to proboards formating since that is what people started with and is what many are still the most comfortible with. I understand that change is needed but that doesn't always mean changing to something completely new, nor does it mean returning back to the 1.0 format(though honestly I do miss it, the system not the fact that you could be cheap as hell in it) It was simple enough to understand. Something else to think about, maybe branch out and add RP elements for both the X and BN series. Hell perhaps even add something for Starforce if we're going down that road. That way you got classics, favorites and newer styles covered. Attract people from all of em. One other thing I've noticed, and people will hate me for this, is that half the time free RP was non-BN/X based. Yes I know it said FREE but honestly the forum was BN formated at the time and all other formats of RP should have been dissallowed. Look at the first major storyline, it was the only BN themed RP going on half the time, rest were naruto, KH or bleach stuff. That needed to stop. Maybe we even should have lost the idea of a main storyline RP and just released it like it's a tale being told. Fuck I would have written that and enjoyed it more than most of the RP'ing I did years back. Edit on above: I just checked and there's actually next to little BN or X themed Free RP's. So ya, point proven. The word Free should have been ruled on YEARS ago. That being said, member support in actually testing out and using the new ideas is needed. If that isn't possible then it might be time to add the fourth and final nail to the coffin and let this place rest in piece. Edited by Chibi Goku, Dec 26 2008, 04:23 PM.
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| Sharpman | Dec 28 2008, 11:43 AM Post #17 |
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I agree with Chibi Goku, but we can't just sit around and talk about it. We have this winter break, let's use it. Because after, i think most hopes of getting a new system up and running (at least soon) will be gone. So let's just start getting ideas out; we need to start making somethikng happen. I'll make an idea topic (don't think that by any means I'm saying I'm in charge) and we can get a brainstorm going. Because this needs to happen. Fast. EDIT: Topic is located in the GENERAL RPG board. Edited by Sharpman, Dec 28 2008, 11:50 AM.
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| Everett | Dec 28 2008, 07:30 PM Post #18 |
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We need new members, yes, but herein lies the serious issue. I think it's not so much that no new games are being made, so people lose interest. I sadly believe that Mega Man as a whole is dwindling in popularity. It's extremely sad things are turning out this way, but really it's the truth of the matter. We aren't getting anyone new because no one cares anymore. Only us old timers remain, and as life takes its toll we slowly begin to go away as well. Of course, on that matter there is nothing we can really do about that. Capcom is the one who has been skimping on Mega Man, putting less effort into making a game and more effort in getting out sequels. We all know this to be true. And as a result, how can anyone new become interested in the series? Furthermore many avid supporters lose faith too, and abandon it. I never will, because I'm simply too ingrained in the series*I think I bleed it now*. But, it is something we have to take into consideration. To this, the best we can do is go out on other sites to get members, not just sit around here and hope they come to us. We have to show them why Mega Man is still great. Sure, the games are becoming less and less, but there is still so much too it. The Narrative of Mega Man, if you examine it completely, has a rich history. It created a storyline that branched over four series in the regular continuity*five if you count Legends* as well as Mega Man Battle Network and Starforce. I know this because I'm nerd enough to do all of this. It's only so loopy and stuff because Capcom makes it that way. That's where us, the fans come in. Making sense of the story, and making it special is what we can do, in addition to going our own way. This is where I get to my next point. I wasn't here for 1.0, but I was here for 1.5. I don't know what it was about it, but I enjoyed fighting, and I became decently powerful. However, it was the rping that was the really worth it. I can honestly admit that I may not be the person I am today if I had not found this place. I greatly anticipated continuing Age 2, and I actually spent time on my own thinking how I could increase the usefulness of my character, which happened. I also spent time in the free rping, which as noted was not all Mega man. Which, as a whole that could've hurt everything a little. Half the characters were from existing Anime or games rather then original characters. I myself did this too, but my primary character, Xeron, was my own creation regardless, and he has endured all these years. Not that he didn't have his share of hacked abilities *coughsharingancough* but for whatever reason, our world still made sense with all of this stuff in it. We even had a number of people who just morphed into the net, and weren't even Net Navis. I'm looking at you, Mokujin. I can't explain exactly where I was going with this, but i will say I don't think other stuff is the problem. It would be somewhat restricting to force people to only rp Mega Man or forget it, and probably make more problems then solve them. As far as the Mega Man to use, I always preferred MMBN. Don't get me wrong, I like every series, some more then others, but BN is really it for me. I still remember seeing it at Wal-Mart, and almost instantly was struck by how 'odd' Mega Man appeared. It was the yellow, mostly, but that image sticks with me. Ironically, I only bought the first one, and I played the others on the computer, but I was a fan regardless. To that end, as it was stated earlier, RP wise, BN is the most accepting. It is more real, in a way, and having a character is extremely simple. Everyone, or rather almost everyone on the planet has these Navis. Anyone could happen to become a hero, if the circumstances are right. While not everyone would be the god-killing master operator, one could still find their own place in the world. As far as what EXE did, we took basis in the games, the first two, and then broke away, creating a new canon. Did it become screwy in places, most certainly. But it had charm. However, from what I can remember before my hiatus, I think it all changed when everyone began to focus on revamping the system. Maybe it needed to be done, but everything was put on hold until it was finished. That gap hurt most definitely. I know that's about the time I left, though that was also to computer problems, such as crappy internet. I come back, everything mostly is different. I never was able to get into any new system, which was essintial for doing pretty much anything. That there is was a problem, I think. yes, we had some battles in the Ages, but at least in the second one*unsure of the first*, we had cut off point. I think all the main characters were around level 7, the only difference is we got to bring in our chips, which I used at least for rping purposes. Though, all the different swords and items people begin looking for detract from those. The point was, though, you didn't need awesome stats to act in those few instances. Otherwise, we mostly just rped, and there wasn't any problems from what I could see, except for the few completely random segments. But, those were fun, and policing them so they never happened for the sake of a more smooth story would've been frustrating. Which, I guess brings me to my most important and slightly hypocritcal statement. I like a good story. One that makes sense. I wish Mega Man worked that way. Which, starting next semester, I may have the means to make a game to do that. I am getting a Game Programming class, and at the moment I am hard at work at creating all the sprites for a mm game. They are 8-bit, but much more advanced then any other 8-bit Mega Man game. I mostly chose this because they would both be smaller and I wouldn't have to shade as much. All in all, I'll be making everything, and create a more complete story, hopefully. I'll probably use this site as a primary place to show it off, and maybe a few others. But, the point is, when you get us together, the people who keep this going, you can't control how ideas flow. It was the randomness and off the wall ideas that made this place great. We almost need to be allowed to make the guys who rip off of other stuff, though I don't personally think it's right. It's just the way things were, and they worked like that. Does that mean we need no rules for rping, hell no. If I was in charge, and I'm glad I'm not, I would probably not allow all the blatent Naruto rip offs and the rp's that only allowed it, as even back then I only rped in the Mega Man areas. Even now I've fixed my existing characters so that they don't have naruto or kenshin moves of any kind. However, I don't think it's realistic to dissallow everything. But I can't figure something out how something like that would or could work on my own. And no one else can. Not by themselves. We need to come together, and reestablish why we were better then everyone else, and why we've stood the test of time unlike anyone else, even if time has finally begun to catch up. We aren't dead yet. Let's keep it that way. |
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| Saint PhantomZero | Dec 29 2008, 12:17 AM Post #19 |
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In regards to Chibi Goku: I agree that the downfall started when 2.0 was being released, and that holds water. However I'm going to disagree with the board conversions. It's not much effort to register a second time on, essentially, the same goddamn board and get used to a relatively similar system to proboards. Going back to proboards won't do shit. I agree with Everett that the popularity in Megaman in general is dwindling, and you can tell easily that is the problem with many of the members here. I believe it was Ross who said that EXEW is basically a community now, which is true for many long-standing forums. I mean, honestly? That's the big problem. It also has something to do with the fact that we're all getting older. For example, Rock Label: L. I know that he was an active member when it was booming, but he got into music, and he's playing in a band I think (I know he plays guitar soooo) so his activity went down (even though he shows up). Also, take a look at every single root of this forum. Sara didn't necessarily get bored (I'm not disclosing details to her leave) but right now she's more focused on her career at WB. Matt has also moved onto bigger projects where he can direct his efforts to. Dan is attending one of the top ten public schools in the fucking nation. He's busy too. Now it's me. I worked my ass off to get 3.0 to get like a month of activity and it backfired due to the lack of member-participants. So obviously, I feel like it was a complete waste of my time to work with you guys (which doesn't have to do with me getting older but...). But you know how hard I can work, and that's basically half as hard as I was working on my studies, and I'll be attending the 12th best university in the country because of that hard work. My point is, we're getting older and we have things to do. Even you, Chibi. You have your own life (whatever you're doing now), and as humans, we are all going through the same thing. We prioritize things in our life over this, and I don't think it's right to blame the decline and leaving members on the new systems and the board conversions. The only thing to blame is the lack of getting new members. Now I know some of you might be thinking, "Why does PZ still go on FEFF a lot and not here?" Well it's because of the community. I'm not saying I hate you guys but it's more enjoyable for me to talk to the people on FEFF because we share similar interests. I thought it was about time I posted in here so... |
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| Brahms | Dec 29 2008, 04:06 AM Post #20 |
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This place does seem dead. I've noticed that alot of topics are a little old. And you guys should focus on more than giving your RP a make over. Theres a couple forums I go to & don't have anything like that. You ought to think of other areas, too. I mean, I didn't join EXEW because of it. This is a Mega Man forum so I'm thinking thats what should take priority: discussion of that. And if you need any help I could provide some assistance. |
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