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Topic Started: Dec 27 2007, 07:51 AM (137 Views)
77 sides of chrome Liverpool
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Despite a poor performance we got the the win,Chelsea have been doing it for several weeks. Other teams have lost points lets wait and see.
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redscouser Liverpool
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I'll take the 3 points - everyone has to win ugly sometimes.

I am concerned over yet more keystone cop defending for a set piece - it's definitely something we need to work on.

A performance like that on Sunday will not be good enough, so let's just hope we've got it out of our system.
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Playing badly and winning.... hmmm, I'm sure that was a positive thing not long ago... sign of champions some have said in the past....

Makes a change from playing poorly and dropping points which is what usually happens to us.
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Berethorn Liverpool
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Against Derby it's not a sign of champions, it's a sign of lackluster players again relying on others to bail them out because they couldn't be arsed doing the job themselves.

Reading is a freak result I can accept. Derby yesterday was nearly catastrophic.
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Dec 27 2007, 08:19 PM
Against Derby it's not a sign of champions, it's a sign of lackluster players again relying on others to bail them out because they couldn't be arsed doing the job themselves.

Reading is a freak result I can accept. Derby yesterday was nearly catastrophic.

what more do you expect ? Liverpool to thump everyone week in week out ? In the past we have played crap and got nothing out off it when teams like man utd chelsea etc have got three points from it . This season so far we have played shit yet have got either a draw or a win which is an improvement and is the way man utd etc have been getting points in the past . Also look at the game yesterday ! I only saw highlights online this morning and it would off been more than two if it wasnt for their keeper and hiting the bar etc .
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Dec 27 2007, 08:54 PM
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Dec 27 2007, 08:19 PM
Against Derby it's not a sign of champions, it's a sign of lackluster players again relying on others to bail them out because they couldn't be arsed doing the job themselves.

Reading is a freak result I can accept.  Derby yesterday was nearly catastrophic.

what more do you expect ? Liverpool to thump everyone week in week out ? In the past we have played crap and got nothing out off it when teams like man utd chelsea etc have got three points from it . This season so far we have played shit yet have got either a draw or a win which is an improvement and is the way man utd etc have been getting points in the past . Also look at the game yesterday ! I only saw highlights online this morning and it would off been more than two if it wasnt for their keeper and hiting the bar etc .

also look at the chances derby had yesterday and the goal ! Would they off had them with sami still on the pitch ? I very much doubt it . What did people expect ? We are still very much in with a shout for the title . Win game in hand and we are 6 points off the top 5 off arsenal and 1 ahead off chelsea . They are all more than capable off dropping points just like we can go on an unbeaten run just like we have done in the past couple off seasons at this stage . Its nowhere near the doom and gloom people are talking about just cause we only beat derby 2 1
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Dec 27 2007, 10:13 AM


I am concerned over yet more keystone cop defending for a set piece - it's definitely something we need to work on.

Do you think it has somthing to do with Pako leaving at the start of the season
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Dec 27 2007, 09:09 PM
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Dec 27 2007, 10:13 AM


I am concerned over yet more keystone cop defending for a set piece - it's definitely something we need to work on.

Do you think it has somthing to do with Pako leaving at the start of the season

no it was because we had to play a left back at centre back .
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Who was that i didnt see the game?


Did you have a LB at CB vs Utd :chin:
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Berethorn Liverpool
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Dec 27 2007, 09:54 PM
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Dec 27 2007, 08:19 PM
Against Derby it's not a sign of champions, it's a sign of lackluster players again relying on others to bail them out because they couldn't be arsed doing the job themselves.

Reading is a freak result I can accept.  Derby yesterday was nearly catastrophic.

what more do you expect ? Liverpool to thump everyone week in week out ? In the past we have played crap and got nothing out off it when teams like man utd chelsea etc have got three points from it . This season so far we have played shit yet have got either a draw or a win which is an improvement and is the way man utd etc have been getting points in the past . Also look at the game yesterday ! I only saw highlights online this morning and it would off been more than two if it wasnt for their keeper and hiting the bar etc .

Against Derby? Frankly yes. Don't give me any twaddle about how they've improved. Newcastle drew with Arsenal but that doesn't make them as good as Arsenal anymore than it makes Derby as good as Newcastle for drawing against the Toon.

Derby is about the only team in the entire Premiership that would let us get away with a performance like that. Any other club would have crucified us. You don't have to agree but I for one will not take a shrug and "3 points are 3 points" as a valid counter argument for the near debacle yesterday.
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Dec 27 2007, 09:28 PM
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Dec 27 2007, 09:54 PM
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Dec 27 2007, 08:19 PM
Against Derby it's not a sign of champions, it's a sign of lackluster players again relying on others to bail them out because they couldn't be arsed doing the job themselves.

Reading is a freak result I can accept.  Derby yesterday was nearly catastrophic.

what more do you expect ? Liverpool to thump everyone week in week out ? In the past we have played crap and got nothing out off it when teams like man utd chelsea etc have got three points from it . This season so far we have played shit yet have got either a draw or a win which is an improvement and is the way man utd etc have been getting points in the past . Also look at the game yesterday ! I only saw highlights online this morning and it would off been more than two if it wasnt for their keeper and hiting the bar etc .

Against Derby? Frankly yes. Don't give me any twaddle about how they've improved. Newcastle drew with Arsenal but that doesn't make them as good as Arsenal anymore than it makes Derby as good as Newcastle for drawing against the Toon.

Derby is about the only team in the entire Premiership that would let us get away with a performance like that. Any other club would have crucified us. You don't have to agree but I for one will not take a shrug and "3 points are 3 points" as a valid counter argument for the near debacle yesterday.

well im sorry but you need to lower your expectations a lot then if you expect thumpings against the poor teams in the league cause many a time over the years the poor teams have raised their game against the big boys and will continue to do so . At the end off the day all that matters is we got three points when we didnt play very well . If it wasnt for their keeper it would off been more than two so its nowhere near doom and gloom . And from what i saw derby played above themselves and liverpool didnt play that well . It happens get used to it but the positive is we won
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Berethorn Liverpool
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Liverpool didn't play that well? Bit of an understatement that isn't it?

I'm sorry but you seem cursed with red-tinted specs. Rafa's subs were all wrong - Voronin should have been taken off instead of being allowed to clod-hop. We had to rely on Gerrard to bail us out - again.

Derby didn't play above themselves. We failed to put the game beyond them in the first half and they came back and punished us for it. After all the big talk about must win games coming out of Anfield, especially after the Reading result, this was a game that needed a performance. What do we get? Same again.

You can be happy with the three points. I welcome them, but tbh I found the whole situation embarrassing. Yesterday was yet another warning, if any were needed, of the huge faultline that runs through the team, the gap between desire and determination to achieve.

The only thing in Derby's favour yesterday was that they wanted it more than us. Fortunately Gerrard and Torres wanted it more than Derby. It's only a pity that the rest of the team didn't, and an even bigger pity that you can't seem to see that.
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As bad as Derby are you arnt guaranteed 3 points against them before you start you need to earn it when the match starts
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Dec 27 2007, 09:48 PM
As bad as Derby are you arnt guaranteed 3 points against them before you start you need to earn it when the match starts

well said stam . We got away with a bad performance yet im pretty sure we wont be the only one this season out off chelsea man utd etc to do so but what is the only thing that matters ? Winning is what matters . Yes derby were up for it and we failed to put away chances on top off what looked like a good performance from their keeper . We won . End off story . That is all that matters . Getting the three points . Dont care how we do it as long as we do .
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Berethorn Liverpool
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Fine. We'll have to agree to disagree.
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ill put both of you in the sin bin if you want to have a barny :bat:
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sin bin for what ? Cause we have a different view on a game ? We arent being nasty or anything just having a debate about football . And b what would you rather have 1 . An outstanding performance yet loosing or drawing or 2 . Playing shit and winning ? Cause every game you arent going to play well and win . You have to expect performance levels to drop or rise throughout the season . I dont think we have played at all well this whole season yet look were we are in the league .
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It was a joke mate chillax :lol:
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Berethorn Liverpool
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Dec 27 2007, 11:19 PM
sin bin for what ? Cause we have a different view on a game ? We arent being nasty or anything just having a debate about football . And b what would you rather have 1 . An outstanding performance yet loosing or drawing or 2 . Playing shit and winning ? Cause every game you arent going to play well and win . You have to expect performance levels to drop or rise throughout the season . I dont think we have played at all well this whole season yet look were we are in the league .

I'd like a decent performance after putting in a crap one against Reading, and then having Kuyt and probably other players say how important it was to put a decent performance in against Derby - only to put in another crap one. :nerner:

My apologise - I didn't think I was asking so much of my team. :blush2: dummy:
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Dec 27 2007, 11:02 PM
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Dec 27 2007, 11:19 PM
sin bin for what ? Cause we have a different view on a game ? We arent being nasty or anything just having a debate about football . And b what would you rather have 1 . An outstanding performance yet loosing or drawing or 2 . Playing shit and winning ? Cause every game you arent going to play well and win . You have to expect performance levels to drop or rise throughout the season . I dont think we have played at all well this whole season yet look were we are in the league .

I'd like a decent performance after putting in a crap one against Reading, and then having Kuyt and probably other players say how important it was to put a decent performance in against Derby - only to put in another crap one. :nerner:

My apologise - I didn't think I was asking so much of my team. :blush2: dummy:

whats more important thou ? The performance or the result ?
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