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Fans Expectations
Topic Started: Jan 6 2008, 11:24 PM (97 Views)
El Nino
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Have seen numerous threads and posts with lots of doom and gloom over last couple of weeks , everything fromn sack rafa to we are on the same level as newcastl etc , but what did people expect this year from Liverpool ?

Was it to win the title all because we bought one top class striker and one guy for the future plus a couple freebies ?

Was it to challenge and be there or there abouts around april time and have a decent points tally and be within 10 points of the title ?

Maybe all this disappointment is down to people unrealistic expectations for the season ?

I hoped that come xmas we would still be in touch - we are , well certainly closer than last couple of games . Getting torres was never going to win us the title , we still need a couple of more top class players - another striker, wide player and defensive cover . Get them and we can maybe start looking to win the thing .

The main problem is will Rafa get the time given to Fergie and wenger in the past plus the dosh to get the required players ? Who knows but i hope so cause i cant think of any other manager i would rather have than rafa - certainly not Jose and definatly not Klinsmann ??? wtf has he done in his career as a manager ? take the home team to the quarters or semis of the world cup ? they didnt have to qualify ? done nothing at a club .
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The Nutmeg King
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10 points isn't really 'in touch' for me...
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El Nino
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The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:30 PM
10 points isn't really 'in touch' for me...

but its not totally out of it yet thou .
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El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:31 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:30 PM
10 points isn't really 'in touch' for me...

but its not totally out of it yet thou .

Desperately seeking positives that suggest we'll make up a 10 point gap?

Sadly we don't have the quality I'm afraid...
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El Nino
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The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:33 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:31 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:30 PM
10 points isn't really 'in touch' for me...

but its not totally out of it yet thou .

Desperately seeking positives that suggest we'll make up a 10 point gap?

Sadly we don't have the quality I'm afraid...

do we have the chance to still be up there in the top 4 within 10 points come april may time ? yes we do .
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El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:36 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:33 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:31 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:30 PM
10 points isn't really 'in touch' for me...

but its not totally out of it yet thou .

Desperately seeking positives that suggest we'll make up a 10 point gap?

Sadly we don't have the quality I'm afraid...

do we have the chance to still be up there in the top 4 within 10 points come april may time ? yes we do .

Mathematically yes...

What are the signs, from what you've seen that suggest we can make up 10 points?

If we finish 10 points off the leaders after the last game, is that a good season?
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El Nino
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The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:38 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:36 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:33 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:31 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:30 PM
10 points isn't really 'in touch' for me...

but its not totally out of it yet thou .

Desperately seeking positives that suggest we'll make up a 10 point gap?

Sadly we don't have the quality I'm afraid...

do we have the chance to still be up there in the top 4 within 10 points come april may time ? yes we do .

Mathematically yes...

What are the signs, from what you've seen that suggest we can make up 10 points?

If we finish 10 points off the leaders after the last game, is that a good season?

is it an improvement from the last season ? did you expect us to win it ? I dont think we will win it but think we will be around 5-10 points of the top come the end .
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El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:41 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:38 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:36 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:33 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:31 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:30 PM
10 points isn't really 'in touch' for me...

but its not totally out of it yet thou .

Desperately seeking positives that suggest we'll make up a 10 point gap?

Sadly we don't have the quality I'm afraid...

do we have the chance to still be up there in the top 4 within 10 points come april may time ? yes we do .

Mathematically yes...

What are the signs, from what you've seen that suggest we can make up 10 points?

If we finish 10 points off the leaders after the last game, is that a good season?

is it an improvement from the last season ? did you expect us to win it ? I dont think we will win it but think we will be around 5-10 points of the top come the end .

I don't know til the end of the season. I said I wanted us in contention with 6 or so games left.

Will 10 points off the leaders be a good season for you then?
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El Nino
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The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:44 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:41 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:38 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:36 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:33 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:31 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:30 PM
10 points isn't really 'in touch' for me...

but its not totally out of it yet thou .

Desperately seeking positives that suggest we'll make up a 10 point gap?

Sadly we don't have the quality I'm afraid...

do we have the chance to still be up there in the top 4 within 10 points come april may time ? yes we do .

Mathematically yes...

What are the signs, from what you've seen that suggest we can make up 10 points?

If we finish 10 points off the leaders after the last game, is that a good season?

is it an improvement from the last season ? did you expect us to win it ? I dont think we will win it but think we will be around 5-10 points of the top come the end .

I don't know til the end of the season. I said I wanted us in contention with 6 or so games left.

Will 10 points off the leaders be a good season for you then?

it will depend on how we are doing in the fa cup and cl as well , ten to 5 points difference and yes it will be an improvment and what i was expecting us to be doing this year . not a brilliant season but not a poor season considering the team we have and the improvements we need to maek .
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El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:48 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:44 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:41 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:38 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:36 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:33 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:31 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:30 PM
10 points isn't really 'in touch' for me...

but its not totally out of it yet thou .

Desperately seeking positives that suggest we'll make up a 10 point gap?

Sadly we don't have the quality I'm afraid...

do we have the chance to still be up there in the top 4 within 10 points come april may time ? yes we do .

Mathematically yes...

What are the signs, from what you've seen that suggest we can make up 10 points?

If we finish 10 points off the leaders after the last game, is that a good season?

is it an improvement from the last season ? did you expect us to win it ? I dont think we will win it but think we will be around 5-10 points of the top come the end .

I don't know til the end of the season. I said I wanted us in contention with 6 or so games left.

Will 10 points off the leaders be a good season for you then?

it will depend on how we are doing in the fa cup and cl as well , ten to 5 points difference and yes it will be an improvment and what i was expecting us to be doing this year . not a brilliant season but not a poor season considering the team we have and the improvements we need to maek .

5-10 points - 5 points is a big difference at the end of the season.

10 points is too many, we need to close the gap considerably.

We've brought in what was meant to be quality. Time to show it, we've got a stupidly big mountain to climb, and it's looking like the points gap will get bigger, not smaller...
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El Nino
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The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:50 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:48 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:44 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:41 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:38 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:36 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:33 PM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 12:31 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 6 2008, 11:30 PM
10 points isn't really 'in touch' for me...

but its not totally out of it yet thou .

Desperately seeking positives that suggest we'll make up a 10 point gap?

Sadly we don't have the quality I'm afraid...

do we have the chance to still be up there in the top 4 within 10 points come april may time ? yes we do .

Mathematically yes...

What are the signs, from what you've seen that suggest we can make up 10 points?

If we finish 10 points off the leaders after the last game, is that a good season?

is it an improvement from the last season ? did you expect us to win it ? I dont think we will win it but think we will be around 5-10 points of the top come the end .

I don't know til the end of the season. I said I wanted us in contention with 6 or so games left.

Will 10 points off the leaders be a good season for you then?

it will depend on how we are doing in the fa cup and cl as well , ten to 5 points difference and yes it will be an improvment and what i was expecting us to be doing this year . not a brilliant season but not a poor season considering the team we have and the improvements we need to maek .

5-10 points - 5 points is a big difference at the end of the season.

10 points is too many, we need to close the gap considerably.

We've brought in what was meant to be quality. Time to show it, we've got a stupidly big mountain to climb, and it's looking like the points gap will get bigger, not smaller...

we brought in torres who is quality , we brought in voronin who tbh is pretty shite really , we brought in babel who will take time and is a super sub at best for this year until he find his feet plus yossi who is a garcia replacement at best . we still lack one more quality striker and a wide player . we arent going to play the rest of the season the way we have been doing for the last couple of games ( from what i have seen which isnt much ) results this season have shown arsenal and man utd and chelsea will also slip up so there is no reason why we wont be closer come the end of the season . The acn is going to hurt chelsea and arsenal - man utd are the team to beat and they have more quality tha us is a lot of areas . we need more quality to get lots more closer - with the current set of players the gap of 5-10 points to man utd is about right .
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Berethorn Liverpool
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I said the FA Cup and 3rd place, or within 10 points of the top, whichever was better.

I actually expected (hoped for) within 10 points of the top.
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We need rid of Kewell, he's lost his pace and would struggle to beat an egg. Babel isn't a winger, he keeps proving that time and again. Nor is Yossi - he wants to drift inside all the time and doesn't stretch the play and provide width and crosses. Both good players, but not in the positions we need.

That leaves us with Pennant on the right and Riise (who is showing that he's past it every game he plays) on the left. Leto seems consigned to the reserves and isn't ready.

Kuyt isn't good enough to be a top striker (in any sense of the word) in the Premier league, and Voronin is a poor man's Kuyt but didn't cost £10m.

So I believe that we need two wingers, one on each side, a centre-half and a top class striker (we're talking the calibre of Drogba, Villa, Eto'o) to partner Torres and / or Crouch.

As for Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea slipping up, we have shown nothing to demonstrate we can capitalise on that to the extent that we need to be be in contention.

10 points won't do it for me. And it doesn't matter if we win the CL, that will be a bonus. We know we can do that and perform in that competition. The league is the acid test from now on.
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El Nino
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Jan 7 2008, 12:05 AM
We need rid of Kewell, he's lost his pace and would struggle to beat an egg. Babel isn't a winger, he keeps proving that time and again. Nor is Yossi - he wants to drift inside all the time and doesn't stretch the play and provide width and crosses. Both good players, but not in the positions we need.

That leaves us with Pennant on the right and Riise (who is showing that he's past it every game he plays) on the left. Leto seems consigned to the reserves and isn't ready.

Kuyt isn't good enough to be a top striker (in any sense of the word) in the Premier league, and Voronin is a poor man's Kuyt but didn't cost £10m.

So I believe that we need two wingers, one on each side, a centre-half and a top class striker (we're talking the calibre of Drogba, Villa, Eto'o) to partner Torres and / or Crouch.

As for Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea slipping up, we have shown nothing to demonstrate we can capitalise on that to the extent that we need to be be in contention.

10 points won't do it for me. And it doesn't matter if we win the CL, that will be a bonus. We know we can do that and perform in that competition. The league is the acid test from now on.

then prepare to be disappointed for a while then or at least until next season .

Kuyt works well ith torres and has shown that on the occasions he has played up top with him . You cant compare kuyt with torres - two totally different strikers but im not going to get into that debate .

Crouch isnt good enough and when he plays the long ball starts ( i know not his fault but it happens ) nor is voronin .

Tes we have played poor during the season but we arent going to play poor for the rest of the season .

We arent going to get two top quality wide men and a top quality striker during the summer - maybe only one of them .

Seen the highlights from the wigan and man city game and we battered them just couldnt put the ball in the net - that inculudes wonderboy torres . If we could only get one more player it would be another striker to play with torres - prepferbly villa who has shown links well with torres .

would be hapy to sell crouch,riise, sissoko to help fund that .
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El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 01:13 AM
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Jan 7 2008, 12:05 AM
We need rid of Kewell, he's lost his pace and would struggle to beat an egg. Babel isn't a winger, he keeps proving that time and again. Nor is Yossi - he wants to drift inside all the time and doesn't stretch the play and provide width and crosses. Both good players, but not in the positions we need.

That leaves us with Pennant on the right and Riise (who is showing that he's past it every game he plays) on the left. Leto seems consigned to the reserves and isn't ready.

Kuyt isn't good enough to be a top striker (in any sense of the word) in the Premier league, and Voronin is a poor man's Kuyt but didn't cost £10m.

So I believe that we need two wingers, one on each side, a centre-half and a top class striker (we're talking the calibre of Drogba, Villa, Eto'o) to partner Torres and / or Crouch.

As for Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea slipping up, we have shown nothing to demonstrate we can capitalise on that to the extent that we need to be be in contention.

10 points won't do it for me. And it doesn't matter if we win the CL, that will be a bonus. We know we can do that and perform in that competition. The league is the acid test from now on.

then prepare to be disappointed for a while then or at least until next season .

Kuyt works well ith torres and has shown that on the occasions he has played up top with him . You cant compare kuyt with torres - two totally different strikers but im not going to get into that debate .

Crouch isnt good enough and when he plays the long ball starts ( i know not his fault but it happens ) nor is voronin .

Tes we have played poor during the season but we arent going to play poor for the rest of the season .

We arent going to get two top quality wide men and a top quality striker during the summer - maybe only one of them .

Seen the highlights from the wigan and man city game and we battered them just couldnt put the ball in the net - that inculudes wonderboy torres . If we could only get one more player it would be another striker to play with torres - prepferbly villa who has shown links well with torres .

would be hapy to sell crouch,riise, sissoko to help fund that .

You're right, against Man City we probably could have done with somebody playing up front with Torres who could stick the ball in the net...

As for selling Crouch over either Voronin or Kuyt... :doh:
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El Nino
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Jan 7 2008, 12:15 AM
El Nino
Jan 7 2008, 01:13 AM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 7 2008, 12:05 AM
We need rid of Kewell, he's lost his pace and would struggle to beat an egg. Babel isn't a winger, he keeps proving that time and again. Nor is Yossi - he wants to drift inside all the time and doesn't stretch the play and provide width and crosses. Both good players, but not in the positions we need.

That leaves us with Pennant on the right and Riise (who is showing that he's past it every game he plays) on the left. Leto seems consigned to the reserves and isn't ready.

Kuyt isn't good enough to be a top striker (in any sense of the word) in the Premier league, and Voronin is a poor man's Kuyt but didn't cost £10m.

So I believe that we need two wingers, one on each side, a centre-half and a top class striker (we're talking the calibre of Drogba, Villa, Eto'o) to partner Torres and / or Crouch.

As for Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea slipping up, we have shown nothing to demonstrate we can capitalise on that to the extent that we need to be be in contention.

10 points won't do it for me. And it doesn't matter if we win the CL, that will be a bonus. We know we can do that and perform in that competition. The league is the acid test from now on.

then prepare to be disappointed for a while then or at least until next season .

Kuyt works well ith torres and has shown that on the occasions he has played up top with him . You cant compare kuyt with torres - two totally different strikers but im not going to get into that debate .

Crouch isnt good enough and when he plays the long ball starts ( i know not his fault but it happens ) nor is voronin .

Tes we have played poor during the season but we arent going to play poor for the rest of the season .

We arent going to get two top quality wide men and a top quality striker during the summer - maybe only one of them .

Seen the highlights from the wigan and man city game and we battered them just couldnt put the ball in the net - that inculudes wonderboy torres . If we could only get one more player it would be another striker to play with torres - prepferbly villa who has shown links well with torres .

would be hapy to sell crouch,riise, sissoko to help fund that .

You're right, against Man City we probably could have done with somebody playing up front with Torres who could stick the ball in the net...

As for selling Crouch over either Voronin or Kuyt... :doh:

and that comes down to all the players on the pitch (midfield/strikers) not just kuyt - who im sure got a bashing for it .

Yes i would sell crouch over kuyt . Kuyt does a job the rafa asks of him and in rafas eyes must do it better or he wouldnt pick him .
But i didnt start this thread for it to turn into a kuyt bashing session

It was more about the fans expectations for the season .


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The Nutmeg King
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I've told you mine, and you brought up the subject of players we need in the team... :shrug:
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Iam sure Villa/Eto'o would cost 30m plus, would the Yanks have over that sort of money?
If Rafa was to sell 4-5 squad players to raise it he would have no squad left 1-2 injuries and you would be fucked
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El Nino
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Jan 7 2008, 01:01 AM
Iam sure Villa/Eto'o would cost 30m plus, would the Yanks have over that sort of money?
If Rafa was to sell 4-5 squad players to raise it he would have no squad left 1-2 injuries and you would be fucked

Thats the big question , waiting to see if the owners back up their words of backing rafa for any player he wants .
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