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Jan 16 2008, 03:18 PM
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best young manager your of ya head fella
you lot are more up and down than artetas pants when alonso comes to stay
to be fair youve lasted longer in europe this time round than ya last effort
now who was it you beat in the last round
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Jan 16 2008, 03:25 PM
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best young manager your of ya head fella
you lot are more up and down than artetas pants when alonso comes to stay
to be fair youve lasted longer in europe this time round than ya last effort
now who was it you beat in the last round
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Do you just not bother reading posts?
I said he is ONE OF THE BEST young managers around, not THE best.. The fact that his piers voted him LMA manager twice should be enough to back that up..
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Jan 16 2008, 03:27 PM
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best young manager your of ya head fella
you lot are more up and down than artetas pants when alonso comes to stay
to be fair youve lasted longer in europe this time round than ya last effort
now who was it you beat in the last round
:voddie:
Do you just not bother reading posts? I said he is ONE OF THE BEST young managers around, not THE best.. The fact that his piers voted him LMA manager twice should be enough to back that up..
easily pleased you lot
won fuck all hes a legend :wave:
sorry i do have a habit of glazing over when you post :clap:
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Jan 16 2008, 03:33 PM
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best young manager your of ya head fella
you lot are more up and down than artetas pants when alonso comes to stay
to be fair youve lasted longer in europe this time round than ya last effort
now who was it you beat in the last round
:voddie:
Do you just not bother reading posts? I said he is ONE OF THE BEST young managers around, not THE best.. The fact that his piers voted him LMA manager twice should be enough to back that up..
easily pleased you lot won fuck all hes a legend :wave: sorry i do have a habit of glazing over when you post :clap:
Yet you continue to reply with your drivel... Sadly, you are the type of Liverpool fan that gives the others a bad name.. Step away from the stereotype and form your own opinions for a minute, it's okay, no-one gonna hurt you...
Now, off you pop
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Jan 16 2008, 03:34 PM
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best young manager your of ya head fella
you lot are more up and down than artetas pants when alonso comes to stay
to be fair youve lasted longer in europe this time round than ya last effort
now who was it you beat in the last round
:voddie:
Do you just not bother reading posts? I said he is ONE OF THE BEST young managers around, not THE best.. The fact that his piers voted him LMA manager twice should be enough to back that up..
easily pleased you lot won fuck all hes a legend :wave: sorry i do have a habit of glazing over when you post :clap:
Yet you continue to reply with your drivel... Sadly, you are the type of Liverpool fan that gives the others a bad name.. Step away from the stereotype and form your own opinions for a minute, it's okay, no-one gonna hurt you... Now, off you pop
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Jan 16 2008, 05:53 PM
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how many years of being ordinary have the bluenoses had to deal with ? Ten years ? Twenty years ? When was the last time silverware arrived at woodison ? We are playing very poor at the moment yet still about the blueshite lol
Ooooh hark at her Not going to deny that we have had years of being ordinary, but then we haven't been throwing cash around like nobodies business... Credit where credit is due, your record in the Champions League can't be argued with, but when was the last time you were serious title contenders? Given the amount of money spent would you not have expected more?
an average outlay minus sales off 20 mil a year over 4 years with rafa . And think compared to the spending off other clubs we are in the right position . Both man utd and chelsea spent more over that period so hence above us . When we spend as much as them maybe we might be up with them or even above them. Who knows .
Even after transfers out your spending still comes t something like + £40mill over the last 3 - 4 years.. Pretty sure that's more than Utd, definitely more than Arsenal.. So surely when your sending that amount of money you would expect to be fighting for the title rather than battling for 3rd/4th each season?? I know I would be... If you want to put it in to perspective, Liverpool spent around £27mill on Torres.. For the same amount of money Everton have bought: Arteta, Cahill, Johnson, Yakubu, Stubbs and potentially Pienaar
and im sure they do a great job for you but wouldnt swap any of them for any off our players - maybe have arteta as a back up player but thats about it really . and fee for torres was around 20 mil mate
Your joking, right? You would have Arteta as a back up, for who?? Pennant?!?! What natural wide players have you got who are better than Arteta? Also Cahill, one of the best scoring midfielders in the league, would be a massive asset to any club.. Yakubu.. Nooo, why would you want a 20+ a season striker.. AJ, maybe doesn't score as many as he should but his work rate is 2nd to none..
No im not joking at all , cahill instead off gerrard ( are goalscoring midfielder ) no thanks AJ workrate = kuyt plus kuyt scores more Yakubu= torres , no contest there really Like i said i would take arteta as a squad player , pennant provides more natural width , yeah he maybe not a creative as arteta so would have arteta as a squad player . Maybe the only player would take for a starting place for liverpool would be Lescott as a left back. :redscarf:
What you say regarding the striker issue makes no sense at all! You say that AJ = Kuyt and that Yakubu = Torres...but why doesn't AJ = Torres and Yakubu = Kuyt? Because on that basis, Yakubu is the second best striker there. You're being a bit, "I hate the BS no matter what like" when immediately dismissing Cahill and Arteta as well. I'd much prefer Arteta in a wide position than I would Kewell or Pennant or Riise.
cause im using the basis that yakubu is the number on striker at everton hence the torres remark so on that basis aj = kuyt , is that ok with you ? if not oh well dont care , was having a good nice debate , and my reference for cahill is fine as would prefer all four CM we got that play regulary and he wouldnt start in front of any of them ie gerrard ( who scores more ) xabi mascher and lucas . and have already stated why i prefer pennant but once again my choice my opinion .
any probs with that ? :wave:
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Jan 16 2008, 06:34 PM
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That is how two players (Alan Macinally on Gillette Soccer Saturday and Gary McAllister on Super Sunday) described Liverpool if you take Gerrard and Torres out their side.
Given the amount Benitez has spent assembling his squad, do Liverpool fans think these comments are accurate?
Perhaps not those exact terms, but we're certainly a much less impressive team when our two best players aren't featuring.
I'd be worried if you took you your two best players out of a team and they still looked pretty much the same... :shrug:
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Jan 16 2008, 06:53 PM
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Nice thread :ale:
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Jan 16 2008, 07:25 PM
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how many years of being ordinary have the bluenoses had to deal with ? Ten years ? Twenty years ? When was the last time silverware arrived at woodison ? We are playing very poor at the moment yet still about the blueshite lol
Ooooh hark at her Not going to deny that we have had years of being ordinary, but then we haven't been throwing cash around like nobodies business... Credit where credit is due, your record in the Champions League can't be argued with, but when was the last time you were serious title contenders? Given the amount of money spent would you not have expected more?
an average outlay minus sales off 20 mil a year over 4 years with rafa . And think compared to the spending off other clubs we are in the right position . Both man utd and chelsea spent more over that period so hence above us . When we spend as much as them maybe we might be up with them or even above them. Who knows .
Even after transfers out your spending still comes t something like + £40mill over the last 3 - 4 years.. Pretty sure that's more than Utd, definitely more than Arsenal.. So surely when your sending that amount of money you would expect to be fighting for the title rather than battling for 3rd/4th each season?? I know I would be... If you want to put it in to perspective, Liverpool spent around £27mill on Torres.. For the same amount of money Everton have bought: Arteta, Cahill, Johnson, Yakubu, Stubbs and potentially Pienaar
and im sure they do a great job for you but wouldnt swap any of them for any off our players - maybe have arteta as a back up player but thats about it really . and fee for torres was around 20 mil mate
Your joking, right? You would have Arteta as a back up, for who?? Pennant?!?! What natural wide players have you got who are better than Arteta? Also Cahill, one of the best scoring midfielders in the league, would be a massive asset to any club.. Yakubu.. Nooo, why would you want a 20+ a season striker.. AJ, maybe doesn't score as many as he should but his work rate is 2nd to none..
No im not joking at all , cahill instead off gerrard ( are goalscoring midfielder ) no thanks AJ workrate = kuyt plus kuyt scores more Yakubu= torres , no contest there really Like i said i would take arteta as a squad player , pennant provides more natural width , yeah he maybe not a creative as arteta so would have arteta as a squad player . Maybe the only player would take for a starting place for liverpool would be Lescott as a left back. :redscarf:
What you say regarding the striker issue makes no sense at all! You say that AJ = Kuyt and that Yakubu = Torres...but why doesn't AJ = Torres and Yakubu = Kuyt? Because on that basis, Yakubu is the second best striker there. You're being a bit, "I hate the BS no matter what like" when immediately dismissing Cahill and Arteta as well. I'd much prefer Arteta in a wide position than I would Kewell or Pennant or Riise.
cause im using the basis that yakubu is the number on striker at everton hence the torres remark so on that basis aj = kuyt , is that ok with you ? if not oh well dont care , was having a good nice debate , and my reference for cahill is fine as would prefer all four CM we got that play regulary and he wouldnt start in front of any of them ie gerrard ( who scores more ) xabi mascher and lucas . and have already stated why i prefer pennant but once again my choice my opinion . any probs with that ? :wave:
I wasn't challenging your right to have an opinion, I was challenging your opinion. When you learn the difference and don't resort to ultra defensive remarks like those then maybe then people will take you a bit more seriously.
I suggest you read Voltaire if you don't know what I'm on about.
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Jan 16 2008, 07:28 PM
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how many years of being ordinary have the bluenoses had to deal with ? Ten years ? Twenty years ? When was the last time silverware arrived at woodison ? We are playing very poor at the moment yet still about the blueshite lol
Ooooh hark at her Not going to deny that we have had years of being ordinary, but then we haven't been throwing cash around like nobodies business... Credit where credit is due, your record in the Champions League can't be argued with, but when was the last time you were serious title contenders? Given the amount of money spent would you not have expected more?
an average outlay minus sales off 20 mil a year over 4 years with rafa . And think compared to the spending off other clubs we are in the right position . Both man utd and chelsea spent more over that period so hence above us . When we spend as much as them maybe we might be up with them or even above them. Who knows .
Even after transfers out your spending still comes t something like + £40mill over the last 3 - 4 years.. Pretty sure that's more than Utd, definitely more than Arsenal.. So surely when your sending that amount of money you would expect to be fighting for the title rather than battling for 3rd/4th each season?? I know I would be... If you want to put it in to perspective, Liverpool spent around £27mill on Torres.. For the same amount of money Everton have bought: Arteta, Cahill, Johnson, Yakubu, Stubbs and potentially Pienaar
and im sure they do a great job for you but wouldnt swap any of them for any off our players - maybe have arteta as a back up player but thats about it really . and fee for torres was around 20 mil mate
Your joking, right? You would have Arteta as a back up, for who?? Pennant?!?! What natural wide players have you got who are better than Arteta? Also Cahill, one of the best scoring midfielders in the league, would be a massive asset to any club.. Yakubu.. Nooo, why would you want a 20+ a season striker.. AJ, maybe doesn't score as many as he should but his work rate is 2nd to none..
No im not joking at all , cahill instead off gerrard ( are goalscoring midfielder ) no thanks AJ workrate = kuyt plus kuyt scores more Yakubu= torres , no contest there really Like i said i would take arteta as a squad player , pennant provides more natural width , yeah he maybe not a creative as arteta so would have arteta as a squad player . Maybe the only player would take for a starting place for liverpool would be Lescott as a left back. :redscarf:
What you say regarding the striker issue makes no sense at all! You say that AJ = Kuyt and that Yakubu = Torres...but why doesn't AJ = Torres and Yakubu = Kuyt? Because on that basis, Yakubu is the second best striker there. You're being a bit, "I hate the BS no matter what like" when immediately dismissing Cahill and Arteta as well. I'd much prefer Arteta in a wide position than I would Kewell or Pennant or Riise.
cause im using the basis that yakubu is the number on striker at everton hence the torres remark so on that basis aj = kuyt , is that ok with you ? if not oh well dont care , was having a good nice debate , and my reference for cahill is fine as would prefer all four CM we got that play regulary and he wouldnt start in front of any of them ie gerrard ( who scores more ) xabi mascher and lucas . and have already stated why i prefer pennant but once again my choice my opinion . any probs with that ? :wave:
I wasn't challenging your right to have an opinion, I was challenging your opinion. When you learn the difference and don't resort to ultra defensive remarks like those then maybe then people will take you a bit more seriously. I suggest you read Voltaire if you don't know what I'm on about.
ok what is wrong with my opinion then ? :shrug:
Is yakubu not the number one striker at Everton ?Would Cahill get into the starting line up at any off the top four ? Does arteta stay out wide all game giving constant width and never drift inside ?
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Jan 16 2008, 07:33 PM
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ok what is wrong with my opinion then ? :shrug: Is yakubu not the number one striker at Everton ?Would Cahill get into the starting line up at any off the top four ? Does arteta stay out wide all game giving constant width and never drift inside ?
The fact that a strike partnership of Yakubu and Torres would be rather good I think. Just because he's their number one striker doesn't mean that you can't have him in your team. Do you understand?
Arteta is class. He does stick wide, but drifting inside is hardly a hinderance is it? Hasn't stopped that Ronaldo bloke being a bit good. Hasn't stopped that Ronaldinho bloke being a bit good. Not in the same class obviously, but same principles apply.
Honestly not trying to wind you up Phil, but can you see where I'm coming from without resorting to a very basic "Is that ok with you" response?
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Jan 16 2008, 07:37 PM
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ok what is wrong with my opinion then ? :shrug: Is yakubu not the number one striker at Everton ?Would Cahill get into the starting line up at any off the top four ? Does arteta stay out wide all game giving constant width and never drift inside ?
The fact that a strike partnership of Yakubu and Torres would be rather good I think. Just because he's their number one striker doesn't mean that you can't have him in your team. Do you understand? Arteta is class. He does stick wide, but drifting inside is hardly a hinderance is it? Hasn't stopped that Ronaldo bloke being a bit good. Hasn't stopped that Ronaldinho bloke being a bit good. Not in the same class obviously, but same principles apply. Honestly not trying to wind you up Phil, but can you see where I'm coming from without resorting to a very basic "Is that ok with you" response?
I think we can get someone of a better level than yakubu and thats what i want at liverpool . Have already said would have arteta in squad but wouldnt start every game . when did i say drifting inside was a bad thing and hinders him ? was just showing the difference between him and pennant , would swap arteta for bennayoun maybe but not pennant.
what about tiny tim then ?
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Jan 16 2008, 07:38 PM
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Jan 16 2008, 07:39 PM
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yakubu's a poor mans cisse
Except he's far better than Cisse. Better than Crouch, Voronin and Kuyt as well.
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Jan 16 2008, 07:41 PM
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yakubu's a poor mans cisse
Except he's far better than Cisse. Better than Crouch, Voronin and Kuyt as well.
at least cisse has a decent first touch and has a grasp of the offside rule
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Jan 16 2008, 07:41 PM
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Jan 16 2008, 07:42 PM
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yakubu's a poor mans cisse
Except he's far better than Cisse. Better than Crouch, Voronin and Kuyt as well.
at least cisse has a decent first touch and has a grasp of the offside rule
you sure ? which cisse you on about ? :chin:
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yakubu's a poor mans cisse
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Jan 16 2008, 07:43 PM
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yakubu's a poor mans cisse
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you being dying to use that havent you :lmao:
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ok what is wrong with my opinion then ? :shrug: Is yakubu not the number one striker at Everton ?Would Cahill get into the starting line up at any off the top four ? Does arteta stay out wide all game giving constant width and never drift inside ?
The fact that a strike partnership of Yakubu and Torres would be rather good I think. Just because he's their number one striker doesn't mean that you can't have him in your team. Do you understand? Arteta is class. He does stick wide, but drifting inside is hardly a hinderance is it? Hasn't stopped that Ronaldo bloke being a bit good. Hasn't stopped that Ronaldinho bloke being a bit good. Not in the same class obviously, but same principles apply. Honestly not trying to wind you up Phil, but can you see where I'm coming from without resorting to a very basic "Is that ok with you" response?
I think we can get someone of a better level than yakubu and thats what i want at liverpool . Have already said would have arteta in squad but wouldnt start every game . when did i say drifting inside was a bad thing and hinders him ? was just showing the difference between him and pennant , would swap arteta for bennayoun maybe but not pennant. what about tiny tim then ?
Wouldn't have seen that one coming to be honest.. Would have thought you'd have preferred Arteta to Pennant rather than Benayoun (sp?).. Quite like Yossi, wouldn't mind him in a Blue shirt..
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