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Topic Started: Jan 21 2008, 07:44 PM (569 Views)
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they were saying on setanta that in almost 20 hours play Kuyt has scored 1 goal yes 1 goal in open play... where are all the Kuyt lovers? are they having a Kuyt love-in? because at least cisse had the pace to catch up with his first touch...
why the feck is people jumping on kuyt for tonights gane ? torres is playing shite , gerrard is playing shite benny is giving the ball away every two secs , at least kuyt helped create our only goal and is working hsi scocks off trying to create . kuyt the new scapegoat .
yep sure they are all playing bad but it doesn't detract from the fact Kuyt? his main job? his main position? in case you forgot.... goals and striker not running all over the pitch like some demented penis... and yes i shall say gerrard is gash tonight.
you mean picking the ball up just outside to slide in benny for the goal ? or dropping out wide to play that blinder of a ball accross the box or the lay of for fabio . yeah slag him off when he is playing shite but he isnt tonight .
but thats my point we bought him to be getting on the end of those types of balls not putting them in there... we seriously need some wingers... ones that actually stay out on the wing to give players like Kuyt the chance to show the unbelievers (me) that he can do the business in the box... he's a great workhorse i'm not gonna knock him on that score but natural born goal-scorer? i'm not too sure
with benny constantly cutting inside someone like kuyt has to provide the width to get those balls in , its where we need pennant back to do that job . kuyt is a second striker at the moment , he needs a goal to get his confidence back up cause it is totally shot , hope he doesnt read the forums cause them it would be even worse , gone our the days when pool players were backed thru thick and thin to help them thru dry spells and lose of confidence.
That's complete and utter bullshit, I cheer our players on at Anfield regardless. What I don't do is pretend they're up to it if they're not. That's more damaging than anything said on an internet forum.
its not complete and utter bullshit at all , for someone who isnt good enough how did he manage to score more in the league than anyone else in the team last year ? how did he manage to outscore some more established strikers in the prem , yeah his confidence is shot at the moment in front of goal but he isnt complete shite and that is what you see plastered all over message boards these days .
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Jan 21 2008, 09:58 PM
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Absolutely fucking typical!
Batter them all game long, 2 set plays later and we're behind. Ok we got a draw but its at home to Villa its simply not good enough! We had chances but as per usual we fail to take them and put the game beyond doubt!
What a joke!
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El Nino
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Jan 21 2008, 09:59 PM
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You don't always get a lots of clear chances, so when they come you have to stick them away, it's the difference between the game being on the line and us drawing, or the game being out of sight and us winning.
and helped create one and lost count the amoutn of poor touches torres did when he was one on one with a defender . but no doubt kuyt will be the scapegoat for the draw.
The difference it you know that there's a good chance Torres will score one. Did you watch him against Boro? Shite he was. Still pulled a screamer out of the bag though. Kuyt could play for the rest of his life and not score a goal like that.
did we win against boro ? nah we didnt , seen him score a beauty against chelsea last season so know he can finish , he has lost confidence .
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Jan 21 2008, 09:59 PM
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I say dear Nino!!
One disagrees. Perhaps you should ask dear Headgirl to change your screen name from that shite Spanish striker to that of Ik heb hulp nodig.....
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they were saying on setanta that in almost 20 hours play Kuyt has scored 1 goal yes 1 goal in open play... where are all the Kuyt lovers? are they having a Kuyt love-in? because at least cisse had the pace to catch up with his first touch...
why the feck is people jumping on kuyt for tonights gane ? torres is playing shite , gerrard is playing shite benny is giving the ball away every two secs , at least kuyt helped create our only goal and is working hsi scocks off trying to create . kuyt the new scapegoat .
yep sure they are all playing bad but it doesn't detract from the fact Kuyt? his main job? his main position? in case you forgot.... goals and striker not running all over the pitch like some demented penis... and yes i shall say gerrard is gash tonight.
you mean picking the ball up just outside to slide in benny for the goal ? or dropping out wide to play that blinder of a ball accross the box or the lay of for fabio . yeah slag him off when he is playing shite but he isnt tonight .
but thats my point we bought him to be getting on the end of those types of balls not putting them in there... we seriously need some wingers... ones that actually stay out on the wing to give players like Kuyt the chance to show the unbelievers (me) that he can do the business in the box... he's a great workhorse i'm not gonna knock him on that score but natural born goal-scorer? i'm not too sure
with benny constantly cutting inside someone like kuyt has to provide the width to get those balls in , its where we need pennant back to do that job . kuyt is a second striker at the moment , he needs a goal to get his confidence back up cause it is totally shot , hope he doesnt read the forums cause them it would be even worse , gone our the days when pool players were backed thru thick and thin to help them thru dry spells and lose of confidence.
That's complete and utter bullshit, I cheer our players on at Anfield regardless. What I don't do is pretend they're up to it if they're not. That's more damaging than anything said on an internet forum.
its not complete and utter bullshit at all , for someone who isnt good enough how did he manage to score more in the league than anyone else in the team last year ? how did he manage to outscore some more established strikers in the prem , yeah his confidence is shot at the moment in front of goal but he isnt complete shite and that is what you see plastered all over message boards these days .
It is bullshit because all the players get support from the crowd at Anfield.
You think he reads this stuff? Does he fuck. That's why it's bullshit.
What's said on here and what happens at the game are different, that's a fact.
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they were saying on setanta that in almost 20 hours play Kuyt has scored 1 goal yes 1 goal in open play... where are all the Kuyt lovers? are they having a Kuyt love-in? because at least cisse had the pace to catch up with his first touch...
why the feck is people jumping on kuyt for tonights gane ? torres is playing shite , gerrard is playing shite benny is giving the ball away every two secs , at least kuyt helped create our only goal and is working hsi scocks off trying to create . kuyt the new scapegoat .
yep sure they are all playing bad but it doesn't detract from the fact Kuyt? his main job? his main position? in case you forgot.... goals and striker not running all over the pitch like some demented penis... and yes i shall say gerrard is gash tonight.
you mean picking the ball up just outside to slide in benny for the goal ? or dropping out wide to play that blinder of a ball accross the box or the lay of for fabio . yeah slag him off when he is playing shite but he isnt tonight .
but thats my point we bought him to be getting on the end of those types of balls not putting them in there... we seriously need some wingers... ones that actually stay out on the wing to give players like Kuyt the chance to show the unbelievers (me) that he can do the business in the box... he's a great workhorse i'm not gonna knock him on that score but natural born goal-scorer? i'm not too sure
with benny constantly cutting inside someone like kuyt has to provide the width to get those balls in , its where we need pennant back to do that job . kuyt is a second striker at the moment , he needs a goal to get his confidence back up cause it is totally shot , hope he doesnt read the forums cause them it would be even worse , gone our the days when pool players were backed thru thick and thin to help them thru dry spells and lose of confidence.
i bet your moaning just as much as the next man that we're dropping points and yet in the same breath your saying that we should carry on playing someone who's going through a "bad patch" and just needs a goal but players like that don't win matches... and that's what the game is all about, winning. i would be happy to play him if it was a freindly so he could get his "confidence" back up but it's not, it's a professional competitive game... that relies on the end result... he does a good job of running around and practically being an attacking midfielder, but hes supposed to be a striker and as such should be in the box getting on the end of the types of balls he plays, but is it just a case of when hes playing the team have got reliant on him doing that job as he has done it for so long
yeah im not happy about dropping poiints but im not blaming that on kuyt blaming it on the whole team who need to start pulling their socks up and also need a bit of luck .
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Jan 21 2008, 10:01 PM
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You don't always get a lots of clear chances, so when they come you have to stick them away, it's the difference between the game being on the line and us drawing, or the game being out of sight and us winning.
and helped create one and lost count the amoutn of poor touches torres did when he was one on one with a defender . but no doubt kuyt will be the scapegoat for the draw.
The difference it you know that there's a good chance Torres will score one. Did you watch him against Boro? Shite he was. Still pulled a screamer out of the bag though. Kuyt could play for the rest of his life and not score a goal like that.
did we win against boro ? nah we didnt , seen him score a beauty against chelsea last season so know he can finish , he has lost confidence .
He can play shit and still score i.e. do what he's paid for.
Kuyt can't.
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they were saying on setanta that in almost 20 hours play Kuyt has scored 1 goal yes 1 goal in open play... where are all the Kuyt lovers? are they having a Kuyt love-in? because at least cisse had the pace to catch up with his first touch...
why the feck is people jumping on kuyt for tonights gane ? torres is playing shite , gerrard is playing shite benny is giving the ball away every two secs , at least kuyt helped create our only goal and is working hsi scocks off trying to create . kuyt the new scapegoat .
yep sure they are all playing bad but it doesn't detract from the fact Kuyt? his main job? his main position? in case you forgot.... goals and striker not running all over the pitch like some demented penis... and yes i shall say gerrard is gash tonight.
you mean picking the ball up just outside to slide in benny for the goal ? or dropping out wide to play that blinder of a ball accross the box or the lay of for fabio . yeah slag him off when he is playing shite but he isnt tonight .
but thats my point we bought him to be getting on the end of those types of balls not putting them in there... we seriously need some wingers... ones that actually stay out on the wing to give players like Kuyt the chance to show the unbelievers (me) that he can do the business in the box... he's a great workhorse i'm not gonna knock him on that score but natural born goal-scorer? i'm not too sure
with benny constantly cutting inside someone like kuyt has to provide the width to get those balls in , its where we need pennant back to do that job . kuyt is a second striker at the moment , he needs a goal to get his confidence back up cause it is totally shot , hope he doesnt read the forums cause them it would be even worse , gone our the days when pool players were backed thru thick and thin to help them thru dry spells and lose of confidence.
That's complete and utter bullshit, I cheer our players on at Anfield regardless. What I don't do is pretend they're up to it if they're not. That's more damaging than anything said on an internet forum.
its not complete and utter bullshit at all , for someone who isnt good enough how did he manage to score more in the league than anyone else in the team last year ? how did he manage to outscore some more established strikers in the prem , yeah his confidence is shot at the moment in front of goal but he isnt complete shite and that is what you see plastered all over message boards these days .
It is bullshit because all the players get support from the crowd at Anfield. You think he reads this stuff? Does he fuck. That's why it's bullshit. What's said on here and what happens at the game are different, that's a fact.
so the people on the message boards dont back him yet the crowd do ?
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You don't always get a lots of clear chances, so when they come you have to stick them away, it's the difference between the game being on the line and us drawing, or the game being out of sight and us winning.
and helped create one and lost count the amoutn of poor touches torres did when he was one on one with a defender . but no doubt kuyt will be the scapegoat for the draw.
The difference it you know that there's a good chance Torres will score one. Did you watch him against Boro? Shite he was. Still pulled a screamer out of the bag though. Kuyt could play for the rest of his life and not score a goal like that.
did we win against boro ? nah we didnt , seen him score a beauty against chelsea last season so know he can finish , he has lost confidence .
He can play shit and still score i.e. do what he's paid for. Kuyt can't.
he didnt tonight ? and seen him play shite quite a few times and not score .kuyt didnt play shite tonight and helped set up our first goal , more than others did on the pitch tonight so lets start slagging them off shall we ?
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they were saying on setanta that in almost 20 hours play Kuyt has scored 1 goal yes 1 goal in open play... where are all the Kuyt lovers? are they having a Kuyt love-in? because at least cisse had the pace to catch up with his first touch...
why the feck is people jumping on kuyt for tonights gane ? torres is playing shite , gerrard is playing shite benny is giving the ball away every two secs , at least kuyt helped create our only goal and is working hsi scocks off trying to create . kuyt the new scapegoat .
yep sure they are all playing bad but it doesn't detract from the fact Kuyt? his main job? his main position? in case you forgot.... goals and striker not running all over the pitch like some demented penis... and yes i shall say gerrard is gash tonight.
you mean picking the ball up just outside to slide in benny for the goal ? or dropping out wide to play that blinder of a ball accross the box or the lay of for fabio . yeah slag him off when he is playing shite but he isnt tonight .
but thats my point we bought him to be getting on the end of those types of balls not putting them in there... we seriously need some wingers... ones that actually stay out on the wing to give players like Kuyt the chance to show the unbelievers (me) that he can do the business in the box... he's a great workhorse i'm not gonna knock him on that score but natural born goal-scorer? i'm not too sure
with benny constantly cutting inside someone like kuyt has to provide the width to get those balls in , its where we need pennant back to do that job . kuyt is a second striker at the moment , he needs a goal to get his confidence back up cause it is totally shot , hope he doesnt read the forums cause them it would be even worse , gone our the days when pool players were backed thru thick and thin to help them thru dry spells and lose of confidence.
That's complete and utter bullshit, I cheer our players on at Anfield regardless. What I don't do is pretend they're up to it if they're not. That's more damaging than anything said on an internet forum.
its not complete and utter bullshit at all , for someone who isnt good enough how did he manage to score more in the league than anyone else in the team last year ? how did he manage to outscore some more established strikers in the prem , yeah his confidence is shot at the moment in front of goal but he isnt complete shite and that is what you see plastered all over message boards these days .
It is bullshit because all the players get support from the crowd at Anfield. You think he reads this stuff? Does he fuck. That's why it's bullshit. What's said on here and what happens at the game are different, that's a fact.
so the people on the message boards dont back him yet the crowd do ?
Nope, not what I said.
People don't back him on the messageboards, but they do at the game. i.e. the same people.
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You don't always get a lots of clear chances, so when they come you have to stick them away, it's the difference between the game being on the line and us drawing, or the game being out of sight and us winning.
and helped create one and lost count the amoutn of poor touches torres did when he was one on one with a defender . but no doubt kuyt will be the scapegoat for the draw.
The difference it you know that there's a good chance Torres will score one. Did you watch him against Boro? Shite he was. Still pulled a screamer out of the bag though. Kuyt could play for the rest of his life and not score a goal like that.
did we win against boro ? nah we didnt , seen him score a beauty against chelsea last season so know he can finish , he has lost confidence .
He can play shit and still score i.e. do what he's paid for. Kuyt can't.
he didnt tonight ? and seen him play shite quite a few times and not score .kuyt didnt play shite tonight and helped set up our first goal , more than others did on the pitch tonight so lets start slagging them off shall we ?
I'm sorry this is just ridiculous. You're actually making me laugh!
Torres and Kuyt are not in the same league. Torres isn't perfect, but Kuyt is a laughing stock!
Torres has shown us what he's capable of, as has Kuyt, they're worlds apart - one is worth keeping on for a moment of match-winning genius, one isn't.
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You don't always get a lots of clear chances, so when they come you have to stick them away, it's the difference between the game being on the line and us drawing, or the game being out of sight and us winning.
and helped create one and lost count the amoutn of poor touches torres did when he was one on one with a defender . but no doubt kuyt will be the scapegoat for the draw.
The difference it you know that there's a good chance Torres will score one. Did you watch him against Boro? Shite he was. Still pulled a screamer out of the bag though. Kuyt could play for the rest of his life and not score a goal like that.
did we win against boro ? nah we didnt , seen him score a beauty against chelsea last season so know he can finish , he has lost confidence .
He can play shit and still score i.e. do what he's paid for. Kuyt can't.
he didnt tonight ? and seen him play shite quite a few times and not score .kuyt didnt play shite tonight and helped set up our first goal , more than others did on the pitch tonight so lets start slagging them off shall we ?
I'm sorry this is just ridiculous. You're actually making me laugh! Torres and Kuyt are not in the same league. Torres isn't perfect, but Kuyt is a laughing stock! Torres has shown us what he's capable of, as has Kuyt, they're worlds apart - one is worth keeping on for a moment of match-winning genius, one isn't.
so its all kuyts fault we didnt get the win tonight ? total and utter bollocks.
and im sorry you will have to show me where i have said they are in the same league ? i have said kuyt did ok tonight which he did . he created our first goal and numerous other chances which he did torres played shite tonight which he did , yet once again kuyt is the scapegoat for two points lost , utter crap .
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they were saying on setanta that in almost 20 hours play Kuyt has scored 1 goal yes 1 goal in open play... where are all the Kuyt lovers? are they having a Kuyt love-in? because at least cisse had the pace to catch up with his first touch...
why the feck is people jumping on kuyt for tonights gane ? torres is playing shite , gerrard is playing shite benny is giving the ball away every two secs , at least kuyt helped create our only goal and is working hsi scocks off trying to create . kuyt the new scapegoat .
yep sure they are all playing bad but it doesn't detract from the fact Kuyt? his main job? his main position? in case you forgot.... goals and striker not running all over the pitch like some demented penis... and yes i shall say gerrard is gash tonight.
you mean picking the ball up just outside to slide in benny for the goal ? or dropping out wide to play that blinder of a ball accross the box or the lay of for fabio . yeah slag him off when he is playing shite but he isnt tonight .
but thats my point we bought him to be getting on the end of those types of balls not putting them in there... we seriously need some wingers... ones that actually stay out on the wing to give players like Kuyt the chance to show the unbelievers (me) that he can do the business in the box... he's a great workhorse i'm not gonna knock him on that score but natural born goal-scorer? i'm not too sure
with benny constantly cutting inside someone like kuyt has to provide the width to get those balls in , its where we need pennant back to do that job . kuyt is a second striker at the moment , he needs a goal to get his confidence back up cause it is totally shot , hope he doesnt read the forums cause them it would be even worse , gone our the days when pool players were backed thru thick and thin to help them thru dry spells and lose of confidence.
i bet your moaning just as much as the next man that we're dropping points and yet in the same breath your saying that we should carry on playing someone who's going through a "bad patch" and just needs a goal but players like that don't win matches... and that's what the game is all about, winning. i would be happy to play him if it was a freindly so he could get his "confidence" back up but it's not, it's a professional competitive game... that relies on the end result... he does a good job of running around and practically being an attacking midfielder, but hes supposed to be a striker and as such should be in the box getting on the end of the types of balls he plays, but is it just a case of when hes playing the team have got reliant on him doing that job as he has done it for so long
yeah im not happy about dropping poiints but im not blaming that on kuyt blaming it on the whole team who need to start pulling their socks up and also need a bit of luck .
i'm not gonna argue that point, what Kuyt does he does well, but a striker i think not.
the whole team are not on form at the mo, and i'm not blaming it on one player... just trying to make a point that i don't think Kuyt should be labelled as a striker so much as i don't think you can realistically call him that at the mo, he may score some good goals but john o shea has scored a few at united :nerner:
but seriously, Kuyt may need his confidence boosted but i don't think the first team is a realistic place for him to be doing that...
i don't think all this off-field talk is helping the players at all there is a lot of pressure on everyone's heads and i think the lads have done well to cope with it, but then they do get paid enough :blush2:
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You don't always get a lots of clear chances, so when they come you have to stick them away, it's the difference between the game being on the line and us drawing, or the game being out of sight and us winning.
and helped create one and lost count the amoutn of poor touches torres did when he was one on one with a defender . but no doubt kuyt will be the scapegoat for the draw.
The difference it you know that there's a good chance Torres will score one. Did you watch him against Boro? Shite he was. Still pulled a screamer out of the bag though. Kuyt could play for the rest of his life and not score a goal like that.
did we win against boro ? nah we didnt , seen him score a beauty against chelsea last season so know he can finish , he has lost confidence .
He can play shit and still score i.e. do what he's paid for. Kuyt can't.
he didnt tonight ? and seen him play shite quite a few times and not score .kuyt didnt play shite tonight and helped set up our first goal , more than others did on the pitch tonight so lets start slagging them off shall we ?
I'm sorry this is just ridiculous. You're actually making me laugh! Torres and Kuyt are not in the same league. Torres isn't perfect, but Kuyt is a laughing stock! Torres has shown us what he's capable of, as has Kuyt, they're worlds apart - one is worth keeping on for a moment of match-winning genius, one isn't.
so its all kuyts fault we didnt get the win tonight ? total and utter bollocks. and im sorry you will have to show me where i have said they are in the same league ? i have said kuyt did ok tonight which he did . he created our first goal and numerous other chances which he did torres played shite tonight which he did , yet once again kuyt is the scapegoat for two points lost , utter crap .
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Kuyt missed a great chance today and its cost us but saying that he wasn't the only one!
He also brilliantly set up the first goal and if we're talking great goals for us, West Ham away last season anyone? He's lost confidence and I thinkhe is capable of far better than we've seen this season. Last season alone shows that. Whether his best is good enough though is another matter, I've always been a fan of Dirk for all his hard work, good movement and despite what we've seen this season his finishing. However I'm starting to think he may simply not be able to cut here, we need another striker with genuine goalscoring ability and some quality like Torres who we can't rely on to do it for us every game.
Voronin has to go ahead of Dirk for me at least so if we bring in another real top draw striker I'd be happy to see him stay as back-up with Crouch but really he can't be a regular for us if we want to win the title anytime soon!
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Jan 21 2008, 10:10 PM
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they were saying on setanta that in almost 20 hours play Kuyt has scored 1 goal yes 1 goal in open play... where are all the Kuyt lovers? are they having a Kuyt love-in? because at least cisse had the pace to catch up with his first touch...
why the feck is people jumping on kuyt for tonights gane ? torres is playing shite , gerrard is playing shite benny is giving the ball away every two secs , at least kuyt helped create our only goal and is working hsi scocks off trying to create . kuyt the new scapegoat .
yep sure they are all playing bad but it doesn't detract from the fact Kuyt? his main job? his main position? in case you forgot.... goals and striker not running all over the pitch like some demented penis... and yes i shall say gerrard is gash tonight.
you mean picking the ball up just outside to slide in benny for the goal ? or dropping out wide to play that blinder of a ball accross the box or the lay of for fabio . yeah slag him off when he is playing shite but he isnt tonight .
but thats my point we bought him to be getting on the end of those types of balls not putting them in there... we seriously need some wingers... ones that actually stay out on the wing to give players like Kuyt the chance to show the unbelievers (me) that he can do the business in the box... he's a great workhorse i'm not gonna knock him on that score but natural born goal-scorer? i'm not too sure
with benny constantly cutting inside someone like kuyt has to provide the width to get those balls in , its where we need pennant back to do that job . kuyt is a second striker at the moment , he needs a goal to get his confidence back up cause it is totally shot , hope he doesnt read the forums cause them it would be even worse , gone our the days when pool players were backed thru thick and thin to help them thru dry spells and lose of confidence.
i bet your moaning just as much as the next man that we're dropping points and yet in the same breath your saying that we should carry on playing someone who's going through a "bad patch" and just needs a goal but players like that don't win matches... and that's what the game is all about, winning. i would be happy to play him if it was a freindly so he could get his "confidence" back up but it's not, it's a professional competitive game... that relies on the end result... he does a good job of running around and practically being an attacking midfielder, but hes supposed to be a striker and as such should be in the box getting on the end of the types of balls he plays, but is it just a case of when hes playing the team have got reliant on him doing that job as he has done it for so long
yeah im not happy about dropping poiints but im not blaming that on kuyt blaming it on the whole team who need to start pulling their socks up and also need a bit of luck .
i'm not gonna argue that point, what Kuyt does he does well, but a striker i think not. the whole team are not on form at the mo, and i'm not blaming it on one player... just trying to make a point that i don't think Kuyt should be labelled as a striker so much as i don't think you can realistically call him that at the mo, he may score some good goals but john o shea has scored a few at united :nerner: but seriously, Kuyt may need his confidence boosted but i don't think the first team is a realistic place for him to be doing that... i don't think all this off-field talk is helping the players at all there is a lot of pressure on everyone's heads and i think the lads have done well to cope with it, but then they do get paid enough :blush2:
very true mate but i kjnow crouch scored tonight but he hasnt been firing on all cyclinders lately and same goaes with voronin . i see kuyt more as a second striker , dropping deep to help out midfield and try and create like he did tonight . im pretty sure its what rafa asks him to do so if he does it people can blame rafa for it not kuyt . last year he was in the box more often hence scoring more goals , thi year less so . think rafa needs two quality wide players to do as you say the work kuyt is doing at the moment so he can be in the box with torres more often to get himself on the scoresheet more often .
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Jan 21 2008, 10:11 PM
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You don't always get a lots of clear chances, so when they come you have to stick them away, it's the difference between the game being on the line and us drawing, or the game being out of sight and us winning.
and helped create one and lost count the amoutn of poor touches torres did when he was one on one with a defender . but no doubt kuyt will be the scapegoat for the draw.
The difference it you know that there's a good chance Torres will score one. Did you watch him against Boro? Shite he was. Still pulled a screamer out of the bag though. Kuyt could play for the rest of his life and not score a goal like that.
did we win against boro ? nah we didnt , seen him score a beauty against chelsea last season so know he can finish , he has lost confidence .
He can play shit and still score i.e. do what he's paid for. Kuyt can't.
he didnt tonight ? and seen him play shite quite a few times and not score .kuyt didnt play shite tonight and helped set up our first goal , more than others did on the pitch tonight so lets start slagging them off shall we ?
I'm sorry this is just ridiculous. You're actually making me laugh! Torres and Kuyt are not in the same league. Torres isn't perfect, but Kuyt is a laughing stock! Torres has shown us what he's capable of, as has Kuyt, they're worlds apart - one is worth keeping on for a moment of match-winning genius, one isn't.
so its all kuyts fault we didnt get the win tonight ? total and utter bollocks. and im sorry you will have to show me where i have said they are in the same league ? i have said kuyt did ok tonight which he did . he created our first goal and numerous other chances which he did torres played shite tonight which he did , yet once again kuyt is the scapegoat for two points lost , utter crap .
Talking shite as ever...
im sorry but please point out where im talking shite ?
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Jan 21 2008, 10:12 PM
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Take less time to point out where you're not, so I'll do that.
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Jan 21 2008, 10:15 PM
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Kuyt missed a great chance today and its cost us but saying that he wasn't the only one!
He also brilliantly set up the first goal and if we're talking great goals for us, West Ham away last season anyone? He's lost confidence and I thinkhe is capable of far better than we've seen this season. Last season alone shows that. Whether his best is good enough though is another matter, I've always been a fan of Dirk for all his hard work, good movement and despite what we've seen this season his finishing. However I'm starting to think he may simply not be able to cut here, we need another striker with genuine goalscoring ability and some quality like Torres who we can't rely on to do it for us every game.
Voronin has to go ahead of Dirk for me at least so if we bring in another real top draw striker I'd be happy to see him stay as back-up with Crouch but really he can't be a regular for us if we want to win the title anytime soon!
well said sam , never saying kuyt is in the same league as torres but he does a good job for the team , you dont really need two outstanding strikers to win the league , look at the last couple of seasons for man utd , chelsea , arsenal - how many great strikers did they have ? one not two , what they ahd and what we are missing is the creativity in the wide areas , missing the fakey or the pires or the duff/robben in past seasons. we could get another torres but still not win due to feck all coming from the wide areas . we have had in the past two great strikers and it got us nowwhere , other teams have had two great strikers and got them nowehere , think the priority for us is the wide attacking areas before anither striker.
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Jan 21 2008, 10:15 PM
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Take less time to point out where you're not, so I'll do that.
There we go, done.
no come on tnk for once back up what your saying about my post - which bit of it was shite then ?
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