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We're fooked
Topic Started: Jan 23 2008, 09:24 PM (742 Views)
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chriskamara
Jan 24 2008, 12:32 AM
it doesnt look promising no matter how you look at it

anything could happen - i doubt league 1 though

We can but hope, eh :nerner:

Seriously though, I don't think the RS have anything to worry about, the are a massive club (that hurt!) and will always have someone who has the money there to bail them out of any trouble the yanks may get them in to.
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Jan 24 2008, 08:29 PM
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Jan 24 2008, 09:27 PM
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Jan 24 2008, 08:20 PM
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Jan 24 2008, 08:05 PM
i know people say its different but its like the bank giving glazers that 600 odd million to buy manure , they know the clubs will make the money to pay off , they arent going to give the money if they think its going to go pete tong

utd are a cash cow, miles ahead in terms of squad strength, gate receipts and merchandising

for these reasons it is a hell of a lot easier to manage this kind of debt imo

just compare gate receipts for the two clubs for starters, utd must dwarf liverpool over the course of a season - there is a way around it, which is being addressed ie new stadium, but where the hell will the money come from?

i guess my point is, can liverpool offer the same assurances as utd that things wont go all pete tong? i dont think so tbh

thats why they need the stadium built then it becomes a cash cow mate , the bank wouldnt give the loan if they didnt think there was going to b e any intrest for them and the yanks arent going to do this unless they think there is a profit somewhere for then , if they want to sell they have to make it a sucess to make it an attractive opportunity or if they want the club to make profits they are going to have to shell out to get the ball rolling .

We're not going to be the cash cow that Man Utd are, not for a long long time if ever. Their global brand is way ahead of us, and their team are at the moment as well.

We need to spend on top notch players to get to that level, and then do more. Otherwise we're playing catch-up indefinitely.

That's the bottom line.

yes i know that , thats why i said we have to get the ball rolling to start catching up . we arent going to be able to get loads of top notch players at the same time maybe one a summer like man utd did to strengtn the team up . its not going to happen over night .
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Jan 24 2008, 08:32 PM
chriskamara
Jan 24 2008, 12:32 AM
it doesnt look promising no matter how you look at it

anything could happen - i doubt league 1 though

We can but hope, eh :nerner:

Seriously though, I don't think the RS have anything to worry about, the are a massive club (that hurt!) and will always have someone who has the money there to bail them out of any trouble the yanks may get them in to.

:redscarf: did it hurt bad ? :lmao:
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El Nino
Jan 23 2008, 10:15 PM
chriskamara
Jan 23 2008, 10:07 PM
El Nino
Jan 23 2008, 09:34 PM
why must it all be doom and gloom ? man utd will be in worse debt yet they seem to be coping . they have debt repayments yet can still fork out money , this is happening so lets just wait and see before throwing the towel in .

you get more money when you're winning things

that's the difference

yes and to win things you need the best players and to get that you need to spend a bit so there is no reason why the yanks wont fork out money for top players to ensure we win things which ensures we get more money which means more profit for them , they are not stupid , they are not going to make the team unsuccesful or not competitive anymore as that will get them nowhere - no profits no buyer etc etc .

Actually, look at Villa. They haven't spent hugely but are steadily doing very well for a club that was in crisis 2 years ago.
Just a thought....
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Jan 24 2008, 09:36 PM
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Jan 23 2008, 10:15 PM
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Jan 23 2008, 10:07 PM
El Nino
Jan 23 2008, 09:34 PM
why must it all be doom and gloom ? man utd will be in worse debt yet they seem to be coping . they have debt repayments yet can still fork out money , this is happening so lets just wait and see before throwing the towel in .

you get more money when you're winning things

that's the difference

yes and to win things you need the best players and to get that you need to spend a bit so there is no reason why the yanks wont fork out money for top players to ensure we win things which ensures we get more money which means more profit for them , they are not stupid , they are not going to make the team unsuccesful or not competitive anymore as that will get them nowhere - no profits no buyer etc etc .

Actually, look at Villa. They haven't spent hugely but are steadily doing very well for a club that was in crisis 2 years ago.
Just a thought....

You can put Everton in there as well..
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Jan 24 2008, 09:34 PM
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Jan 24 2008, 08:32 PM
chriskamara
Jan 24 2008, 12:32 AM
it doesnt look promising no matter how you look at it

anything could happen - i doubt league 1 though

We can but hope, eh :nerner:

Seriously though, I don't think the RS have anything to worry about, the are a massive club (that hurt!) and will always have someone who has the money there to bail them out of any trouble the yanks may get them in to.

:redscarf: did it hurt bad ? :lmao:

More than a little bit :ale:
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Jan 24 2008, 08:36 PM
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Jan 23 2008, 10:15 PM
chriskamara
Jan 23 2008, 10:07 PM
El Nino
Jan 23 2008, 09:34 PM
why must it all be doom and gloom ? man utd will be in worse debt yet they seem to be coping . they have debt repayments yet can still fork out money , this is happening so lets just wait and see before throwing the towel in .

you get more money when you're winning things

that's the difference

yes and to win things you need the best players and to get that you need to spend a bit so there is no reason why the yanks wont fork out money for top players to ensure we win things which ensures we get more money which means more profit for them , they are not stupid , they are not going to make the team unsuccesful or not competitive anymore as that will get them nowhere - no profits no buyer etc etc .

Actually, look at Villa. They haven't spent hugely but are steadily doing very well for a club that was in crisis 2 years ago.
Just a thought....

yeah but to make that big next step to CL football they would have to spend a fair bit on players capable off competing on a regular basis. same goes for everton and think man city are trying it already .
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Jan 24 2008, 09:36 PM
El Nino
Jan 23 2008, 10:15 PM
chriskamara
Jan 23 2008, 10:07 PM
El Nino
Jan 23 2008, 09:34 PM
why must it all be doom and gloom ? man utd will be in worse debt yet they seem to be coping . they have debt repayments yet can still fork out money , this is happening so lets just wait and see before throwing the towel in .

you get more money when you're winning things

that's the difference

yes and to win things you need the best players and to get that you need to spend a bit so there is no reason why the yanks wont fork out money for top players to ensure we win things which ensures we get more money which means more profit for them , they are not stupid , they are not going to make the team unsuccesful or not competitive anymore as that will get them nowhere - no profits no buyer etc etc .

Actually, look at Villa. They haven't spent hugely but are steadily doing very well for a club that was in crisis 2 years ago.
Just a thought....

All relative thought isn't it?

Will they regularly get Champions League football in the next few years?

Doubt it.

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El Nino
Jan 24 2008, 08:33 PM
yes i know that , thats why i said we have to get the ball rolling to start catching up . we arent going to be able to get loads of top notch players at the same time maybe one a summer like man utd did to strengtn the team up . its not going to happen over night .

i dont think catching man utd is a realistic target, unless a crop of superstars come through the youth ranks

yes utd added one top player a year, but they were adding them too a title winning squad

liverpool have to get to that standard, then build - all the time utd one step ahead

not saying it could never happen but it is certainly an uphill task
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Jan 24 2008, 08:44 PM
Bedshammer
Jan 24 2008, 09:36 PM
El Nino
Jan 23 2008, 10:15 PM
chriskamara
Jan 23 2008, 10:07 PM
El Nino
Jan 23 2008, 09:34 PM
why must it all be doom and gloom ? man utd will be in worse debt yet they seem to be coping . they have debt repayments yet can still fork out money , this is happening so lets just wait and see before throwing the towel in .

you get more money when you're winning things

that's the difference

yes and to win things you need the best players and to get that you need to spend a bit so there is no reason why the yanks wont fork out money for top players to ensure we win things which ensures we get more money which means more profit for them , they are not stupid , they are not going to make the team unsuccesful or not competitive anymore as that will get them nowhere - no profits no buyer etc etc .

Actually, look at Villa. They haven't spent hugely but are steadily doing very well for a club that was in crisis 2 years ago.
Just a thought....

All relative thought isn't it?

Will they regularly get Champions League football in the next few years?

Doubt it.

Who can say? There ar several prem clubs steadily improving year on year, and I think the top 4 will be challenged next season, if not this.
And if the top 4 aren't getting CL football, will they be able to keep the players?
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chriskamara
Jan 24 2008, 08:45 PM
El Nino
Jan 24 2008, 08:33 PM
yes i know that , thats why i said we have to get the ball rolling to start catching up . we arent going to be able to get loads of top notch players at the same time maybe one a summer like man utd did to strengtn the team up . its not going to happen over night .

i dont think catching man utd is a realistic target, unless a crop of superstars come through the youth ranks

yes utd added one top player a year, but they were adding them too a title winning squad

liverpool have to get to that standard, then build - all the time utd one step ahead

not saying it could never happen but it is certainly an uphill task

no one is doubting it wont be hard mate , unless we get another roman its going to be a long road and will be hard but i remain optomistic we can reach those levels , a couple more players added and we can challenge
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Jan 24 2008, 08:51 PM
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Jan 24 2008, 08:44 PM
Bedshammer
Jan 24 2008, 09:36 PM
El Nino
Jan 23 2008, 10:15 PM
chriskamara
Jan 23 2008, 10:07 PM
El Nino
Jan 23 2008, 09:34 PM
why must it all be doom and gloom ? man utd will be in worse debt yet they seem to be coping . they have debt repayments yet can still fork out money , this is happening so lets just wait and see before throwing the towel in .

you get more money when you're winning things

that's the difference

yes and to win things you need the best players and to get that you need to spend a bit so there is no reason why the yanks wont fork out money for top players to ensure we win things which ensures we get more money which means more profit for them , they are not stupid , they are not going to make the team unsuccesful or not competitive anymore as that will get them nowhere - no profits no buyer etc etc .

Actually, look at Villa. They haven't spent hugely but are steadily doing very well for a club that was in crisis 2 years ago.
Just a thought....

All relative thought isn't it?

Will they regularly get Champions League football in the next few years?

Doubt it.

Who can say? There ar several prem clubs steadily improving year on year, and I think the top 4 will be challenged next season, if not this.
And if the top 4 aren't getting CL football, will they be able to keep the players?

the last time someone broke into the top 4 and cl was everton and looked what happened to them the season after , they could do it but they would need to expand the quality in the squad .
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Jan 24 2008, 09:51 PM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 24 2008, 08:44 PM
Bedshammer
Jan 24 2008, 09:36 PM
El Nino
Jan 23 2008, 10:15 PM
chriskamara
Jan 23 2008, 10:07 PM
El Nino
Jan 23 2008, 09:34 PM
why must it all be doom and gloom ? man utd will be in worse debt yet they seem to be coping . they have debt repayments yet can still fork out money , this is happening so lets just wait and see before throwing the towel in .

you get more money when you're winning things

that's the difference

yes and to win things you need the best players and to get that you need to spend a bit so there is no reason why the yanks wont fork out money for top players to ensure we win things which ensures we get more money which means more profit for them , they are not stupid , they are not going to make the team unsuccesful or not competitive anymore as that will get them nowhere - no profits no buyer etc etc .

Actually, look at Villa. They haven't spent hugely but are steadily doing very well for a club that was in crisis 2 years ago.
Just a thought....

All relative thought isn't it?

Will they regularly get Champions League football in the next few years?

Doubt it.

Who can say? There ar several prem clubs steadily improving year on year, and I think the top 4 will be challenged next season, if not this.
And if the top 4 aren't getting CL football, will they be able to keep the players?

I can say I don't think they will? :shrug:
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El Nino
Jan 24 2008, 09:52 PM
chriskamara
Jan 24 2008, 08:45 PM
El Nino
Jan 24 2008, 08:33 PM
yes i know that , thats why i said we have to get the ball rolling to start catching up . we arent going to be able to get loads of top notch players at the same time maybe one a summer like man utd did to strengtn the team up . its not going to happen over night .

i dont think catching man utd is a realistic target, unless a crop of superstars come through the youth ranks

yes utd added one top player a year, but they were adding them too a title winning squad

liverpool have to get to that standard, then build - all the time utd one step ahead

not saying it could never happen but it is certainly an uphill task

no one is doubting it wont be hard mate , unless we get another roman its going to be a long road and will be hard but i remain optomistic we can reach those levels , a couple more players added and we can challenge

I feel like Bill Murray...

<wakes up to the sound of Sonny and Cher>
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Jan 24 2008, 08:55 PM
El Nino
Jan 24 2008, 09:52 PM
chriskamara
Jan 24 2008, 08:45 PM
El Nino
Jan 24 2008, 08:33 PM
yes i know that , thats why i said we have to get the ball rolling to start catching up . we arent going to be able to get loads of top notch players at the same time maybe one a summer like man utd did to strengtn the team up . its not going to happen over night .

i dont think catching man utd is a realistic target, unless a crop of superstars come through the youth ranks

yes utd added one top player a year, but they were adding them too a title winning squad

liverpool have to get to that standard, then build - all the time utd one step ahead

not saying it could never happen but it is certainly an uphill task

no one is doubting it wont be hard mate , unless we get another roman its going to be a long road and will be hard but i remain optomistic we can reach those levels , a couple more players added and we can challenge

I feel like Bill Murray...

<wakes up to the sound of Sonny and Cher>

well if you dont like what is being said by people then just ignore it . people are allowed to be opomistic without it being continually questioned by you . "thumb"
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El Nino
Jan 24 2008, 09:57 PM
The Nutmeg King
Jan 24 2008, 08:55 PM
El Nino
Jan 24 2008, 09:52 PM
chriskamara
Jan 24 2008, 08:45 PM
El Nino
Jan 24 2008, 08:33 PM
yes i know that , thats why i said we have to get the ball rolling to start catching up . we arent going to be able to get loads of top notch players at the same time maybe one a summer like man utd did to strengtn the team up . its not going to happen over night .

i dont think catching man utd is a realistic target, unless a crop of superstars come through the youth ranks

yes utd added one top player a year, but they were adding them too a title winning squad

liverpool have to get to that standard, then build - all the time utd one step ahead

not saying it could never happen but it is certainly an uphill task

no one is doubting it wont be hard mate , unless we get another roman its going to be a long road and will be hard but i remain optomistic we can reach those levels , a couple more players added and we can challenge

I feel like Bill Murray...

<wakes up to the sound of Sonny and Cher>

well if you dont like what is being said by people then just ignore it . people are allowed to be opomistic without it being continually questioned by you . "thumb"

Sorry, here's me thinking that debate was the purpose... what an idiot.
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Jan 24 2008, 09:04 PM
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Jan 24 2008, 09:57 PM
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Jan 24 2008, 08:55 PM
El Nino
Jan 24 2008, 09:52 PM
chriskamara
Jan 24 2008, 08:45 PM
El Nino
Jan 24 2008, 08:33 PM
yes i know that , thats why i said we have to get the ball rolling to start catching up . we arent going to be able to get loads of top notch players at the same time maybe one a summer like man utd did to strengtn the team up . its not going to happen over night .

i dont think catching man utd is a realistic target, unless a crop of superstars come through the youth ranks

yes utd added one top player a year, but they were adding them too a title winning squad

liverpool have to get to that standard, then build - all the time utd one step ahead

not saying it could never happen but it is certainly an uphill task

no one is doubting it wont be hard mate , unless we get another roman its going to be a long road and will be hard but i remain optomistic we can reach those levels , a couple more players added and we can challenge

I feel like Bill Murray...

<wakes up to the sound of Sonny and Cher>

well if you dont like what is being said by people then just ignore it . people are allowed to be opomistic without it being continually questioned by you . "thumb"

Sorry, here's me thinking that debate was the purpose... what an idiot.

well then debate dont come up with your little funny comments and let people have thier say and their opinion without you calling them something insulting or trying to demean their opinion in some sort of point scoring exercise . people are allowed to have their say without being constantly challenged in a provocative way from yourself .
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If I think somebody is talking bollocks Phil, I'll argue against it.

Don't like it, stop talking bollocks and moaning all the time.

Grow up for fucks sake.
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Jan 24 2008, 09:08 PM
If I think somebody is talking bollocks Phil, I'll argue against it.

Don't like it, stop talking bollocks and moaning all the time.

Grow up for fucks sake.

well just cause you think they are talking bollocks doesnt mean they are , give it a rest , its nice and calm and relaxing until you appear on here . every single time challenging people all over the place , prob makes people think twice about posting while your around . why must you always try and score points against people and try and get one up on them ? does it make you feel nice and clever ?
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El Nino
Jan 24 2008, 10:10 PM
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Jan 24 2008, 09:08 PM
If I think somebody is talking bollocks Phil, I'll argue against it.

Don't like it, stop talking bollocks and moaning all the time.

Grow up for fucks sake.


well just cause you think they are talking bollocks doesnt mean they are , give it a rest , its nice and calm and relaxing until you appear on here . every single time challenging people all over the place , prob makes people think twice about posting while your around . why must you always try and score points against people and try and get one up on them ? does it make you feel nice and clever ?

Whereas people are attracted when you're here, because the forum pet is funny to watch.

Do me a favour, ignore everything I post, don't reply to anything I say ever again.

Thanks
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