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the yanks; here to stay
Topic Started: Jan 25 2008, 10:33 AM (190 Views)
taking me ball home Liverpool
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time to start supporting our owners

or should we carry on doing impressions of the barcodes and the bitters

or should are we still yearn for dic

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taking me ball home Liverpool
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time to stop the pissing and moaning says br
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elvozdefutbol
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Blinkered Red
Jan 25 2008, 11:33 AM
time to start supporting our owners

or should we carry on doing impressions of the barcodes and the bitters

or should are we still yearn for dic

agreed to a point

all this is doin me bonce in

time maybe to let the dust settle
no more marchin ffs
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elvozdefutbol
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Blinkered Red
Jan 25 2008, 11:34 AM
time to stop the pissing and moaning says br

if you say it then maybe we should all listen
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Numbers Liverpool
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fighting for truth and justice in a sick, sordid virtual world.
well I'm gonna stop buying the pies...
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elvozdefutbol
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Numbers
Jan 25 2008, 11:36 AM
well I'm gonna stop buying the pies...

or wait for the sheikh and kidney ones.............
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taking me ball home Liverpool
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elvozdefutbol
Jan 25 2008, 11:36 AM
Blinkered Red
Jan 25 2008, 11:34 AM
time to stop the pissing and moaning says br

if you say it then maybe we should all listen

thats the spirit newfish
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El Nino
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agree gotta get behind the owners now and wait for them to carry us forward , they need to make us a successful club to ensure they get a decent profit .
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elvozdefutbol
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El Nino
Jan 25 2008, 11:42 AM
agree gotta get behind the owners now and wait for them to carry us forward , they need to make us a successful club to ensure they get a decent profit .

im behind them

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview...aseball_bat.jpg
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elvozdefutbol
Jan 25 2008, 10:43 AM
El Nino
Jan 25 2008, 11:42 AM
agree gotta get behind the owners now and wait for them to carry us forward , they need to make us a successful club to ensure they get a decent profit .

im behind them

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview...aseball_bat.jpg

welcome btw , nice to see you here
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elvozdefutbol
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El Nino
Jan 25 2008, 11:44 AM
elvozdefutbol
Jan 25 2008, 10:43 AM
El Nino
Jan 25 2008, 11:42 AM
agree gotta get behind the owners now and wait for them to carry us forward , they need to make us a successful club to ensure they get a decent profit .

im behind them

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview...aseball_bat.jpg

welcome btw , nice to see you here

http://www.storm.ca/~rbutton/macuddersidep...bbit%20trap.jpg
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El Nino
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elvozdefutbol
Jan 25 2008, 10:46 AM
El Nino
Jan 25 2008, 11:44 AM
elvozdefutbol
Jan 25 2008, 10:43 AM
El Nino
Jan 25 2008, 11:42 AM
agree gotta get behind the owners now and wait for them to carry us forward , they need to make us a successful club to ensure they get a decent profit .

im behind them

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview...aseball_bat.jpg

welcome btw , nice to see you here

http://www.storm.ca/~rbutton/macuddersidep...bbit%20trap.jpg

rabbit trap ????

Im gybs btw
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Lord Gonzo Liverpool
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Hang em first. Question em later.
There's still a hell of a lot to prove. Doesn't sound like Rafa's going to get anymore money until the summer transfer wise. We'll probablly only see the completion of Mascherano's deal by the end of the window. If he even wants to stay anymore.
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redscouser Liverpool
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Just because they've secured the loan - which, incidentally, they've saddled the club with, doesn't mean they'll come good on the broken promises.

I won't be happy till they fuck off back over the pond.
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Lord Gonzo Liverpool
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Hang em first. Question em later.
£350m loan of that, £45m will be used for future player transfers and to meet the club's working capital needs.


Anyone else feel a little short changed? :shrug:
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Berethorn Liverpool
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F*ck that. I don't support a government I didn't vote for just because they happened to win an election - do you?

Moores put these two jokers in charge, not us. I don't want them and a constant stadium designs and whipped air PR statements like nobody ever fell out makes them about as welcome as a dose of the clap.
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El Nino
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Jan 25 2008, 08:31 PM
F*ck that. I don't support a government I didn't vote for just because they happened to win an election - do you?

Moores put these two jokers in charge, not us. I don't want them and a constant stadium designs and whipped air PR statements like nobody ever fell out makes them about as welcome as a dose of the clap.

dummy: oh well nothing can be done now and there here to stay now and people protesting constantly will get people nowhere . Support the club support the players support the manager . Crying about it and throwing teddies out off the cot wont get us anywhere now . Its a done deal . If people dont like it they can form a new club like man utd fans did . They are giving the manager money and going ahead with the stadium and have backed the manager . Yeah they have made mistakes people do and people deserve the chance toe a second chance.
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Berethorn Liverpool
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Fans have always supported the club, manager and players. That does not mean they will or have to support the owners when they're clearly stupid.

And don't give me that gumf about how can they be stupid if they're billionaires. George Bush is stupid and he's rich. Here's a little something Olivia posted up on ANother forum:

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They are very naive if they think that - just a glimpse around the forums shows it's done nothing to change the way fans feel. He has done project like this before about 4 years ago I think and defaulted on the loan and ended up havign a fire sale of players etc I read that gillett has been bankrupt several times ?

And as for the debt being on Kop Holdings - well Kop Holdings one asset is LFC and if it gets into trouble paying off the loans what will be taken by the creditors ? I also perturbed by the fact that they haven't even actually paid off any of the debt from last year and borrowings to buy new players - in fact I'm not sure they've even paid any of the interest off yet just rolled it into the new loans - think they've been to Ocean Finance - consolidated current debt to take on even more debt and eventually end up paying more - very worrying


I'm not going to roll over and die just because these two clowns have secured a loan. The BBC reports that DIC are selling assets to fund a possible future bid. Might not come for another year but it looks as though it will remain on the cards for awhile.
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El Nino
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Jan 25 2008, 09:24 PM
Fans have always supported the club, manager and players. That does not mean they will or have to support the owners when they're clearly stupid.

And don't give me that gumf about how can they be stupid if they're billionaires. George Bush is stupid and he's rich. Here's a little something Olivia posted up on ANother forum:

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They are very naive if they think that - just a glimpse around the forums shows it's done nothing to change the way fans feel. He has done project like this before about 4 years ago I think and defaulted on the loan and ended up havign a fire sale of players etc I read that gillett has been bankrupt several times ?

And as for the debt being on Kop Holdings - well Kop Holdings one asset is LFC and if it gets into trouble paying off the loans what will be taken by the creditors ? I also perturbed by the fact that they haven't even actually paid off any of the debt from last year and borrowings to buy new players - in fact I'm not sure they've even paid any of the interest off yet just rolled it into the new loans - think they've been to Ocean Finance - consolidated current debt to take on even more debt and eventually end up paying more - very worrying


I'm not going to roll over and die just because these two clowns have secured a loan. The BBC reports that DIC are selling assets to fund a possible future bid. Might not come for another year but it looks as though it will remain on the cards for awhile.

your not going to roll over and die ? Well what are you going to do then ? There is nothing anyone can do about it . They own the club simple as that . People talk about how disturbing this has been to the team well lets get on with it . Yeah they have taken out a loan that needs to be paid but so do man utd and there loan is far bigger than ours is . All the protesting in the world is going to get people nowhere and what is to suggest dic will be any better ?
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Berethorn Liverpool
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*shrugs* Protests are continuing to be organised. That's good enough for me and I'll support those protests. No-one's saying you have too. We merely have differing point of views on the issue.

The difference between us and Utd is first, they already HAVE a great big stadium so the loan taken out to buy them bought the club exclusively.

2nd ORN has been given a ton of money to buy players that hasn't been part of those loans to my knowledge.

3rd our beloved owners will need another £300m if they want to finish the stadium, which looks likely to take the form of yet ANOTHER loan, after which our debt might actually start approaching Man Utd levels.

4th, DIC stated any LFC debt they take on would become the debt of the Dubai government as it would be converted to bonds.
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