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Jan 28 2008, 10:47 AM
more money down the pan

should of sold whacker or lofty and got a real stiker instead i.e. anelka

anelka why ?

did you not see him when he came last time ?

people saying we should get anelka do me head sorry

was an example of a much better striker

of course yeah we could get another has been, attacking midfielder, not a winger not a poacher, great idea

dont rate anelka and he did fuck all for us

3 goals - 2v birmingham in 19 wasnt it ?

we do need top class mind but we dont have the dough

shopping at matalan again it seems

Finally somebody else who didn't think Anelka did enough for us to sign him...

Cut through the nostalgia of what might have been and look at what happened. He was average for us.

but since then ? remember he only had half a season after hardly playing for much before hand - went to citeh and scored goals and did every season and again when he went to bolton . he will score goals for you end of .

Like I said, look at what actually happened.

He would have been a gamble and didn't do enough. Easy to use hindsight. At the time it was the right decision based on what he did in the time he was with us.
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more money down the pan

should of sold whacker or lofty and got a real stiker instead i.e. anelka

anelka why ?

did you not see him when he came last time ?

people saying we should get anelka do me head sorry

was an example of a much better striker

of course yeah we could get another has been, attacking midfielder, not a winger not a poacher, great idea

dont rate anelka and he did fuck all for us

3 goals - 2v birmingham in 19 wasnt it ?

we do need top class mind but we dont have the dough

shopping at matalan again it seems

Finally somebody else who didn't think Anelka did enough for us to sign him...

Cut through the nostalgia of what might have been and look at what happened. He was average for us.

but since then ? remember he only had half a season after hardly playing for much before hand - went to citeh and scored goals and did every season and again when he went to bolton . he will score goals for you end of .

Like I said, look at what actually happened.

He would have been a gamble and didn't do enough. Easy to use hindsight. At the time it was the right decision based on what he did in the time he was with us.

very true but im talking about now , he is still a good buy and yeah i wished we had signed him , yeah in 4 months he didnt do that much but at arsenal he scored goals at madrid he scored goals at psg he scored goals so the track record was ther , he was proven class and still is , if you weigh up the two players he had a choice off i think to most people its a clear and easy choice hence why most people were so shocked we didnt get him .
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very true but im talking about now , he is still a good buy and yeah i wished we had signed him , yeah in 4 months he didnt do that much but at arsenal he scored goals at madrid he scored goals at psg he scored goals so the track record was ther , he was proven class and still is , if you weigh up the two players he had a choice off i think to most people its a clear and easy choice hence why most people were so shocked we didnt get him .

He scored 2 in 19 for Madrid, 10 in 39 for PSG, hardly prolific really, and he fell out with all and sundry at both clubs, hence being shipped out sharpish from both..

Sadly we can't see into the future, based on his record up til then, at that time it was a correct decision not to sign him IMO.
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very true but im talking about now , he is still a good buy and yeah i wished we had signed him , yeah in 4 months he didnt do that much but at arsenal he scored goals at madrid he scored goals at psg he scored goals so the track record was ther , he was proven class and still is , if you weigh up the two players he had a choice off i think to most people its a clear and easy choice hence why most people were so shocked we didnt get him .

He scored 2 in 19 for Madrid, 10 in 39 for PSG, hardly prolific really, and he fell out with all and sundry at both clubs, hence being shipped out sharpish from both..

Sadly we can't see into the future, based on his record up til then, at that time it was a correct decision not to sign him IMO.

you think it was correct to sign diouf on the basis of four games at the wc plus only scoring 19 goals in 90 odd games in france ?? as opposed to someone who had already proved to be able to score in the prem ? wrong choice in every way and has been proved to be so . like i say most people were shocked at it including gerrard . yeah he fell out with people but from the reports he ws no bother at liverpool and has never been bother since
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very true but im talking about now , he is still a good buy and yeah i wished we had signed him , yeah in 4 months he didnt do that much but at arsenal he scored goals at madrid he scored goals at psg he scored goals so the track record was ther , he was proven class and still is , if you weigh up the two players he had a choice off i think to most people its a clear and easy choice hence why most people were so shocked we didnt get him .

He scored 2 in 19 for Madrid, 10 in 39 for PSG, hardly prolific really, and he fell out with all and sundry at both clubs, hence being shipped out sharpish from both..

Sadly we can't see into the future, based on his record up til then, at that time it was a correct decision not to sign him IMO.

you think it was correct to sign diouf on the basis of four games at the wc plus only scoring 19 goals in 90 odd games in france ?? as opposed to someone who had already proved to be able to score in the prem ? wrong choice in every way and has been proved to be so . like i say most people were shocked at it including gerrard . yeah he fell out with people but from the reports he ws no bother at liverpool and has never been bother since

You're still having real problems filtering out the hindsight factor aren't you? :lol:

And as for Diouf, I don't think I ever mentioned him anywhere
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very true but im talking about now , he is still a good buy and yeah i wished we had signed him , yeah in 4 months he didnt do that much but at arsenal he scored goals at madrid he scored goals at psg he scored goals so the track record was ther , he was proven class and still is , if you weigh up the two players he had a choice off i think to most people its a clear and easy choice hence why most people were so shocked we didnt get him .

He scored 2 in 19 for Madrid, 10 in 39 for PSG, hardly prolific really, and he fell out with all and sundry at both clubs, hence being shipped out sharpish from both..

Sadly we can't see into the future, based on his record up til then, at that time it was a correct decision not to sign him IMO.

you think it was correct to sign diouf on the basis of four games at the wc plus only scoring 19 goals in 90 odd games in france ?? as opposed to someone who had already proved to be able to score in the prem ? wrong choice in every way and has been proved to be so . like i say most people were shocked at it including gerrard . yeah he fell out with people but from the reports he ws no bother at liverpool and has never been bother since

You're still having real problems filtering out the hindsight factor aren't you? :lol:

And as for Diouf, I don't think I ever mentioned him anywhere

well thats the choice he had , thats who he went for instead of anelka . no need for hindsight back then or be able to predict the future , the choice between the two was simple - proven goalscorer or total unknown who hardly scored , every one i know back then couldnt believe it plus players and pundits etc - was a shocking descion .
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very true but im talking about now , he is still a good buy and yeah i wished we had signed him , yeah in 4 months he didnt do that much but at arsenal he scored goals at madrid he scored goals at psg he scored goals so the track record was ther , he was proven class and still is , if you weigh up the two players he had a choice off i think to most people its a clear and easy choice hence why most people were so shocked we didnt get him .

He scored 2 in 19 for Madrid, 10 in 39 for PSG, hardly prolific really, and he fell out with all and sundry at both clubs, hence being shipped out sharpish from both..

Sadly we can't see into the future, based on his record up til then, at that time it was a correct decision not to sign him IMO.

you think it was correct to sign diouf on the basis of four games at the wc plus only scoring 19 goals in 90 odd games in france ?? as opposed to someone who had already proved to be able to score in the prem ? wrong choice in every way and has been proved to be so . like i say most people were shocked at it including gerrard . yeah he fell out with people but from the reports he ws no bother at liverpool and has never been bother since

You're still having real problems filtering out the hindsight factor aren't you? :lol:

And as for Diouf, I don't think I ever mentioned him anywhere

well thats the choice he had , thats who he went for instead of anelka . no need for hindsight back then or be able to predict the future , the choice between the two was simple - proven goalscorer or total unknown who hardly scored , every one i know back then couldnt believe it plus players and pundits etc - was a shocking descion .

Easy to say, with hindsight.

Still struggling.

Nevermind, on we move!
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Jan 28 2008, 08:19 PM
When I think of the money we p!ssed away on players like Diouf... :blowup:

exactly mate . back then it was a no brainer on who to spend the money on - anelka or diouf , feck knows why he picked diouf .
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When I think of the money we p!ssed away on players like Diouf... :blowup:

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very true but im talking about now , he is still a good buy and yeah i wished we had signed him , yeah in 4 months he didnt do that much but at arsenal he scored goals at madrid he scored goals at psg he scored goals so the track record was ther , he was proven class and still is , if you weigh up the two players he had a choice off i think to most people its a clear and easy choice hence why most people were so shocked we didnt get him .

He scored 2 in 19 for Madrid, 10 in 39 for PSG, hardly prolific really, and he fell out with all and sundry at both clubs, hence being shipped out sharpish from both..

Sadly we can't see into the future, based on his record up til then, at that time it was a correct decision not to sign him IMO.

you think it was correct to sign diouf on the basis of four games at the wc plus only scoring 19 goals in 90 odd games in france ?? as opposed to someone who had already proved to be able to score in the prem ? wrong choice in every way and has been proved to be so . like i say most people were shocked at it including gerrard . yeah he fell out with people but from the reports he ws no bother at liverpool and has never been bother since

You're still having real problems filtering out the hindsight factor aren't you? :lol:

And as for Diouf, I don't think I ever mentioned him anywhere

well thats the choice he had , thats who he went for instead of anelka . no need for hindsight back then or be able to predict the future , the choice between the two was simple - proven goalscorer or total unknown who hardly scored , every one i know back then couldnt believe it plus players and pundits etc - was a shocking descion .

Easy to say, with hindsight.

Still struggling.

Nevermind, on we move!

THE POINT ITHAT IS BEING MADE IS THAT IT WAS SAID BACK THEN AS WELL NOT JUST NOW , GET THE POINT NOW ??? NO NEED FOR HINDSIGHT OR TO SEE THE FUTURE , GH HAD MONEY TO GET DIOUF OR ANELKA AND WENT WITH DIOUF AND PRETTY MUCH 99.9% WONDER WHY THE HELL HE DID IT AND 99.9% OF PEOPLE BACK THEN WERE CORRECT HINDSIGHT OR NO HINDSIGHT . THEY WERE RIGHT .

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When I think of the money we p!ssed away on players like Diouf...  :blowup:

17m on masch

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in todays market he is worth it , we have to pay that much if we want that quality in the team .
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very true but im talking about now , he is still a good buy and yeah i wished we had signed him , yeah in 4 months he didnt do that much but at arsenal he scored goals at madrid he scored goals at psg he scored goals so the track record was ther , he was proven class and still is , if you weigh up the two players he had a choice off i think to most people its a clear and easy choice hence why most people were so shocked we didnt get him .

He scored 2 in 19 for Madrid, 10 in 39 for PSG, hardly prolific really, and he fell out with all and sundry at both clubs, hence being shipped out sharpish from both..

Sadly we can't see into the future, based on his record up til then, at that time it was a correct decision not to sign him IMO.

you think it was correct to sign diouf on the basis of four games at the wc plus only scoring 19 goals in 90 odd games in france ?? as opposed to someone who had already proved to be able to score in the prem ? wrong choice in every way and has been proved to be so . like i say most people were shocked at it including gerrard . yeah he fell out with people but from the reports he ws no bother at liverpool and has never been bother since

You're still having real problems filtering out the hindsight factor aren't you? :lol:

And as for Diouf, I don't think I ever mentioned him anywhere

well thats the choice he had , thats who he went for instead of anelka . no need for hindsight back then or be able to predict the future , the choice between the two was simple - proven goalscorer or total unknown who hardly scored , every one i know back then couldnt believe it plus players and pundits etc - was a shocking descion .

Easy to say, with hindsight.

Still struggling.

Nevermind, on we move!

THE POINT ITHAT IS BEING MADE IS THAT IT WAS SAID BACK THEN AS WELL NOT JUST NOW , GET THE POINT NOW ??? NO NEED FOR HINDSIGHT OR TO SEE THE FUTURE , GH HAD MONEY TO GET DIOUF OR ANELKA AND WENT WITH DIOUF AND PRETTY MUCH 99.9% WONDER WHY THE HELL HE DID IT AND 99.9% OF PEOPLE BACK THEN WERE CORRECT HINDSIGHT OR NO HINDSIGHT . THEY WERE RIGHT .

No need to shout is there?

99.9% eh? Random stat to prove the point, with no basis whatsoever. Ho hum.

You disagree, no problem, on we move and let's just let this one go now shall we?
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very true but im talking about now , he is still a good buy and yeah i wished we had signed him , yeah in 4 months he didnt do that much but at arsenal he scored goals at madrid he scored goals at psg he scored goals so the track record was ther , he was proven class and still is , if you weigh up the two players he had a choice off i think to most people its a clear and easy choice hence why most people were so shocked we didnt get him .

He scored 2 in 19 for Madrid, 10 in 39 for PSG, hardly prolific really, and he fell out with all and sundry at both clubs, hence being shipped out sharpish from both..

Sadly we can't see into the future, based on his record up til then, at that time it was a correct decision not to sign him IMO.

you think it was correct to sign diouf on the basis of four games at the wc plus only scoring 19 goals in 90 odd games in france ?? as opposed to someone who had already proved to be able to score in the prem ? wrong choice in every way and has been proved to be so . like i say most people were shocked at it including gerrard . yeah he fell out with people but from the reports he ws no bother at liverpool and has never been bother since

You're still having real problems filtering out the hindsight factor aren't you? :lol:

And as for Diouf, I don't think I ever mentioned him anywhere

well thats the choice he had , thats who he went for instead of anelka . no need for hindsight back then or be able to predict the future , the choice between the two was simple - proven goalscorer or total unknown who hardly scored , every one i know back then couldnt believe it plus players and pundits etc - was a shocking descion .

Easy to say, with hindsight.

Still struggling.

Nevermind, on we move!

THE POINT ITHAT IS BEING MADE IS THAT IT WAS SAID BACK THEN AS WELL NOT JUST NOW , GET THE POINT NOW ??? NO NEED FOR HINDSIGHT OR TO SEE THE FUTURE , GH HAD MONEY TO GET DIOUF OR ANELKA AND WENT WITH DIOUF AND PRETTY MUCH 99.9% WONDER WHY THE HELL HE DID IT AND 99.9% OF PEOPLE BACK THEN WERE CORRECT HINDSIGHT OR NO HINDSIGHT . THEY WERE RIGHT .

No need to shout is there?

99.9% eh? Random stat to prove the point, with no basis whatsoever. Ho hum.

You disagree, no problem, on we move and let's just let this one go now shall we?

ok roughly 99.9% and apart from the odd peopl on here i cant remember many people disagreeing with me including mr gerrard . but do you see the point that the opinion of mine and quite a few others i have spoken to other the years isnt based on hindsight its based on how they felt at the time and it has been proved that there initial opinion holds a lot of weight now .
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in fact forget about it , would take a miracle for someones eles point to be recognised :wave:
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very true but im talking about now , he is still a good buy and yeah i wished we had signed him , yeah in 4 months he didnt do that much but at arsenal he scored goals at madrid he scored goals at psg he scored goals so the track record was ther , he was proven class and still is , if you weigh up the two players he had a choice off i think to most people its a clear and easy choice hence why most people were so shocked we didnt get him .

He scored 2 in 19 for Madrid, 10 in 39 for PSG, hardly prolific really, and he fell out with all and sundry at both clubs, hence being shipped out sharpish from both..

Sadly we can't see into the future, based on his record up til then, at that time it was a correct decision not to sign him IMO.

you think it was correct to sign diouf on the basis of four games at the wc plus only scoring 19 goals in 90 odd games in france ?? as opposed to someone who had already proved to be able to score in the prem ? wrong choice in every way and has been proved to be so . like i say most people were shocked at it including gerrard . yeah he fell out with people but from the reports he ws no bother at liverpool and has never been bother since

You're still having real problems filtering out the hindsight factor aren't you? :lol:

And as for Diouf, I don't think I ever mentioned him anywhere

well thats the choice he had , thats who he went for instead of anelka . no need for hindsight back then or be able to predict the future , the choice between the two was simple - proven goalscorer or total unknown who hardly scored , every one i know back then couldnt believe it plus players and pundits etc - was a shocking descion .

Easy to say, with hindsight.

Still struggling.

Nevermind, on we move!

THE POINT ITHAT IS BEING MADE IS THAT IT WAS SAID BACK THEN AS WELL NOT JUST NOW , GET THE POINT NOW ??? NO NEED FOR HINDSIGHT OR TO SEE THE FUTURE , GH HAD MONEY TO GET DIOUF OR ANELKA AND WENT WITH DIOUF AND PRETTY MUCH 99.9% WONDER WHY THE HELL HE DID IT AND 99.9% OF PEOPLE BACK THEN WERE CORRECT HINDSIGHT OR NO HINDSIGHT . THEY WERE RIGHT .

No need to shout is there?

99.9% eh? Random stat to prove the point, with no basis whatsoever. Ho hum.

You disagree, no problem, on we move and let's just let this one go now shall we?

Though it could be argued that GH just didn't know how to get the best out of either player. Diouf and Anelka both played together at Bolton and both were quite a handful when playing under Big Sam. Anelka got the goals, something GH failed to do when Anelka was with Liverpool. Diouf though not an out and out goal scorer is an effective player who's more then a handful for most defences, plus he chips in with the odd goal, more reguarlly then he did at Liverpool. Again GH failed to produce any good football from Diouf while he played at Liverpool.

Is it the failing of the player or the manager for not being able to produce the best out of his players? Especially as both have moved on and improved as players from their Liverpool days.
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very true but im talking about now , he is still a good buy and yeah i wished we had signed him , yeah in 4 months he didnt do that much but at arsenal he scored goals at madrid he scored goals at psg he scored goals so the track record was ther , he was proven class and still is , if you weigh up the two players he had a choice off i think to most people its a clear and easy choice hence why most people were so shocked we didnt get him .

He scored 2 in 19 for Madrid, 10 in 39 for PSG, hardly prolific really, and he fell out with all and sundry at both clubs, hence being shipped out sharpish from both..

Sadly we can't see into the future, based on his record up til then, at that time it was a correct decision not to sign him IMO.

you think it was correct to sign diouf on the basis of four games at the wc plus only scoring 19 goals in 90 odd games in france ?? as opposed to someone who had already proved to be able to score in the prem ? wrong choice in every way and has been proved to be so . like i say most people were shocked at it including gerrard . yeah he fell out with people but from the reports he ws no bother at liverpool and has never been bother since

You're still having real problems filtering out the hindsight factor aren't you? :lol:

And as for Diouf, I don't think I ever mentioned him anywhere

well thats the choice he had , thats who he went for instead of anelka . no need for hindsight back then or be able to predict the future , the choice between the two was simple - proven goalscorer or total unknown who hardly scored , every one i know back then couldnt believe it plus players and pundits etc - was a shocking descion .

Easy to say, with hindsight.

Still struggling.

Nevermind, on we move!

THE POINT ITHAT IS BEING MADE IS THAT IT WAS SAID BACK THEN AS WELL NOT JUST NOW , GET THE POINT NOW ??? NO NEED FOR HINDSIGHT OR TO SEE THE FUTURE , GH HAD MONEY TO GET DIOUF OR ANELKA AND WENT WITH DIOUF AND PRETTY MUCH 99.9% WONDER WHY THE HELL HE DID IT AND 99.9% OF PEOPLE BACK THEN WERE CORRECT HINDSIGHT OR NO HINDSIGHT . THEY WERE RIGHT .

No need to shout is there?

99.9% eh? Random stat to prove the point, with no basis whatsoever. Ho hum.

You disagree, no problem, on we move and let's just let this one go now shall we?

Though it could be argued that GH just didn't know how to get the best out of either player. Diouf and Anelka both played together at Bolton and both were quite a handful when playing under Big Sam. Anelka got the goals, something GH failed to do when Anelka was with Liverpool. Diouf though not an out and out goal scorer is an effective player who's more then a handful for most defences, plus he chips in with the odd goal, more reguarlly then he did at Liverpool. Again GH failed to produce any good football from Diouf while he played at Liverpool.

Is it the failing of the player or the manager for not being able to produce the best out of his players? Especially as both have moved on and improved as players from their Liverpool days.

not sure diouf has improved that much but tbh havent really watched him much , i know they had a litttle phase when diouf was playing well but was that not before anelka arrived and was at the time okacha was playin ???
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