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IWGC RULES OF PLAY - 2012 EDITION/Amended; RULES OF PLAY/Amended 3/12
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Topic Started: Jan 12 2012, 09:47 AM (386 Views)
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JoeCool
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Jan 12 2012, 09:47 AM
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CLUB WIDE RULES OF PLAY - 2012 EDITION PREFACE As the game and what the club plays changes, so must our guidelines and rules. We are taking into account the trend of harder play, and the wealth of EA Online tie-in available on a daily and weekly basis. Some concerns were unheard of a year ago, and many of them have been successfully solved by our Member Trustees on the fly. These Rules are meant to reflect these solutions as we carry on. These Rules will apply to ALL club casual and tournament gameplay. Game Glitches and any possible relief of them has been given special and expanded attention. Other than that, it is hoped that the amended Rules are simpler and more straightforward. They are effective immediately. GENERAL All club games are played UNRANKED. Casual Password is "iwgc" or other fun entry, also use these for Tournament practice rounds. Tournament Passwords will be tournament/round specific. Results will count without exception. Everyone should be clear regarding their status during an OFFICIAL round. Good manners will be to let the winner of one round or match set the next. He/she may defer. Intentional disconnects are not allowed without good reason. Unintentional disconnects should come with an excuse or apology, and be accepted graciously. Any trend of continously disconnecting from games will come under review. Whatever the game or version, everyone should do their best to include all wanting to play.
OFFICIAL CLUB/EA ONLINE TOURNAMENT PLAY Club games are played with another member, matching score posts & confirmations required. EA Online activity is to be First Try & One-And-Done without exception. FT/OAD _____Set XBox & PS3 Country Club rounds for 2 Tries and 1 Submission, in case of technical malfunction.
Seperate or special FT/OAD personas should be used if needed, use normal/regular for retries. A score posting is required to be considered a participant. _____Having the XBox & PS3 Country Clubs does not supercede this rule. All restrictions to specific conditions should be follwed ie. Focus or no, Motion-Plus, Putting style. Disconnects - Club Games - Restart at point of last successsfullly played hole by unanimous agreement. Disconnects - EA Online - Restart the round if desired, and report an accurate score to the best of your ability with explanation. Tee To Green, there will be no restriction regarding clubs or shot types.
GREENPLAY The ONLY club to be used on the green is the Putter, regardless of distance to the hole. The only exception would be an area of Fringe, Fairway, Rough, or Bunker DIRECTLY in the path. ONE and ONLY ONE Chip-Pitch is allowed at discretion in this case. The Fringe is not considered to be the Green surface, and any shot/club is allowed
The Penalty for an infraction of this or any Rule will be 1 STROKE, so you might as well take a shot with the putter.
GAME GLITCHES Glitches happen and are considered to be part of everyday experience. Some are very real and can be easily documented with photos or videos. Sometimes a playing partner or the group can be keeping track of things and confirm the occurence, while others are more subjective in nature. The Rules are a combination of personal experience and observation, and some solutions are based on previously used good practices. Presented in no particular order...
Glass Holes - This will be defined as a gently and reasonably struck tap-in from close range that travels directly over the hole as if it wasn't there. Close Range is defined as when the ball and cup are both visible in the first person view, within about a single grid of green. If it occurs beyond this range, consider the putt to be struck too hard. Glass/Invisible Walls in front of the cup - These are obvious. The immediate solution is to re-putt with aim to an extreme edge. Relief will be summarized at the end. Chip/Pitch/Putts that get the OB signal and undeserved stroke/strokes applied. Relief will be summarized at the end. Water and Bunker hazard shots that record as OB are known. Relief will be summarized at the end. OB off the Tee, OB on approach (non hole-out), seemingly unreal OB areas on the course - Care should be taken during rounds to make sure of proper Wii-Mote calibration. No relief can be entertained. Course knowledge is the only defense against any of the unreal OB areas around the course.
Glitch Relief: Club rounds with member partner - It may be possible that your partner or group (TW11) was in a position to observe. This cannot be expected or taken for granted, only discussed, agreement made, and matching score postings/confirmations be made to the scoring thread. Assume only that our members are here and playing because they subscribe to the spirit of the game, wanting accuracy and fairness to prevail.
Glitch Relief: EA Online/Solo Play - Here we will also include the matter of Holes-In-One/Aces, and any other special shots (ex. Dbl. Eagle) that qualify for special club awards or recognition. Depending on the nature of the glitch or shot, some form of photographic or video proof is REQUIRED. HIO/ACE shots can easily be proven with a still of the scorecard after the round is complete, while others would require a video of the game or timeframe. Evidence will be reviewed as needed, and all should rest assured that the good, honest words and accounts of our members comes before any doubt.
It is hoped that this is all complete and clear, and removes any pressure from individuals to make considerations and judgement calls.
and...HEY!!! Don't forget to have some FUN!!!
JC
Also see: IWGC Site Etiquette & Rules
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Sonic
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Jan 12 2012, 10:51 AM
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That clears up one thing I've been doing wrong. When I've landed on the fringe the game usually gives me a putter, up to now I had thought I was bound to using said putter and not try switching to chip or pitch. Now I know better. (this may well be an old rule, my fault for missing it )
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TMangrove
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Jan 12 2012, 12:02 PM
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(this may well be an old rule, my fault for missing it  )
If there's one thing we can all agree on its that whatever happens it's certainly your fault 
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JoeCool
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Jan 12 2012, 12:41 PM
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- TMangrove
- Jan 12 2012, 12:02 PM
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(this may well be an old rule, my fault for missing it  )
If there's one thing we can all agree on its that whatever happens it's certainly your fault  TMan The Senator from the great state of New Jersey concurs.
ok, i forgot to lock this up, as it's meant for reference, but we'll leave it open for questions and comments. to clarify the clarification, the Putter Rule applies ONLY to the green surface proper, not the fringe, or any surrounding bit of fairway or rough. on one hand, i've never had the game hand me a chipping club on the green surface proper, and on the other, if the stupid game hands you a putter for a shot from the fringe or fairway, you are not obliged to use it.
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JoeCool
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Mar 24 2012, 09:13 AM
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- Jan 12 2012, 09:47 AM
CLUB WIDE RULES OF PLAY - 2012 EDITION (amended 3/12) PREFACE As the game and what the club plays changes, so must our guidelines and rules. We are taking into account the trend of harder play, and the wealth of EA Online tie-in available on a daily and weekly basis. Some concerns were unheard of a year ago, and many of them have been successfully solved by our Member Trustees on the fly. These Rules are meant to reflect these solutions as we carry on. These Rules will apply to ALL club casual and tournament gameplay. Game Glitches and any possible relief of them has been given special and expanded attention. Other than that, it is hoped that the amended Rules are simpler and more straightforward. They are effective immediately. GENERAL All club games are played UNRANKED. Casual Password is "iwgc" or other fun entry, also use these for Tournament practice rounds. Tournament Passwords will be tournament/round specific. Results will count without exception. Everyone should be clear regarding their status during an OFFICIAL round. Good manners will be to let the winner of one round or match set the next. He/she may defer. Intentional disconnects are not allowed without good reason. Unintentional disconnects should come with an excuse or apology, and be accepted graciously. Any trend of continously disconnecting from games will come under review. Whatever the game or version, everyone should do their best to include all wanting to play.
OFFICIAL CLUB/EA ONLINE TOURNAMENT PLAY Club games are played with another member, matching score posts & confirmations required. EA Online activity is to be First Try & One-And-Done without exception. FT/OAD Seperate or special FT/OAD personas should be used if needed, use normal/regular for retries. A score posting is required to be considered a participant. All restrictions to specific conditions should be follwed ie. Focus or no, Motion-Plus, Putting style. Disconnects - Club Games - Restart at point of last successsfullly played hole by unanimous agreement. Disconnects - EA Online - Restart the round if desired, and report an accurate score to the best of your ability with explanation. Tee To Green, there will be no restriction regarding clubs or shot types.
GREENPLAY The ONLY club to be used on the green is the Putter, regardless of distance to the hole. The only exception would be an area of Fringe, Fairway, Rough, or Bunker DIRECTLY in the path. ONE and ONLY ONE Chip-Pitch is allowed at discretion in this case. The Fringe is not considered to be the Green surface, and any shot/club is allowed
The Penalty for an infraction of this or any Rule will be 1 STROKE, so you might as well take a shot with the putter.
GAME GLITCHES Glitches happen and are considered to be part of everyday experience. Some are very real and can be easily documented with photos or videos. Sometimes a playing partner or the group can be keeping track of things and confirm the occurence, while others are more subjective in nature. The Rules are a combination of personal experience and observation, and some solutions are based on previously used good practices. Presented in no particular order...
Glass Holes - This will be defined as a gently and reasonably struck tap-in from close range that travels directly over the hole as if it wasn't there. Close Range is defined as when the ball and cup are both visible in the first person view, within about a single grid of green. If it occurs beyond this range, consider the putt to be struck too hard. Glass/Invisible Walls in front of the cup - These are obvious. The immediate solution is to re-putt with aim to an extreme edge. Relief will be summarized at the end. Chip/Pitch/Putts that get the OB signal and undeserved stroke/strokes applied. Relief will be summarized at the end. Water and Bunker hazard shots that record as OB are known. Relief will be summarized at the end. OB off the Tee, OB on approach (non hole-out), seemingly unreal OB areas on the course - Care should be taken during rounds to make sure of proper Wii-Mote calibration. No relief can be entertained. Course knowledge is the only defense against any of the unreal OB areas around the course.
Glitch Relief: Club rounds with member partner - It may be possible that your partner or group (TW11) was in a position to observe. This cannot be expected or taken for granted, only discussed, agreement made, and matching score postings/confirmations be made to the scoring thread. Assume only that our members are here and playing because they subscribe to the spirit of the game, wanting accuracy and fairness to prevail.
Glitch Relief: EA Online/Solo Play - Here we will also include the matter of Holes-In-One/Aces, and any other special shots (ex. Dbl. Eagle) that qualify for special club awards or recognition. Depending on the nature of the glitch or shot, some form of photographic or video proof is REQUIRED. HIO/ACE shots can easily be proven with a still of the scorecard after the round is complete, while others would require a video of the game or timeframe. Evidence will be reviewed as needed, and all should rest assured that the good, honest words and accounts of our members comes before any doubt.
It is hoped that this is all complete and clear, and removes any pressure from individuals to make considerations and judgement calls.
and...HEY!!! Don't forget to have some FUN!!!
JCAlso see: IWGC Site Etiquette & Rules i have added one new line to the rules to cover an infraction of the green-play rule. i think it covers the matter. just remember, that to be OFFICIAL for club honors, monies, or trophies, the numbers have to jive. if your online leaderboard resullts differ from from a post here, there must be explanation to account for the difference. otherwise the round will not count.
until we have a firm grasp on the new XBox/PS3 play on TW13, consider these Rules Of Play to be in effect. They should be good as is.
JC
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Mar 27 2012, 09:39 AM
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I'm curious to the reasons of only being permitted a putter on the greens.... this isn't a usga rule and I dontknow that a situation would even come up, but while I was spectating at the API this past weekend I got to see someone use a wedge on the green to get over some water the green wraps around on 18. Was such a beautiful shot and very impressive to see no damage done to playing surface.
Has there been glitches or cheats in past titles in this regard?
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JoeCool
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Mar 27 2012, 12:07 PM
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- Mar 27 2012, 09:39 AM
I'm curious to the reasons of only being permitted a putter on the greens.... this isn't a usga rule and I dontknow that a situation would even come up, but while I was spectating at the API this past weekend I got to see someone use a wedge on the green to get over some water the green wraps around on 18. Was such a beautiful shot and very impressive to see no damage done to playing surface.
Has there been glitches or cheats in past titles in this regard? we realize there are no actual PGA/USGA/R&A prohibiting it. but it is extremely rare to see it done i've seen it done on TV. the one that stands out for me is a long time ago, Nick Price "chipping" over that bunker in the middle of a Riviera Par-3. it's just been determined that the game, even in the most difficult settings, is just too easy. however, further in the rule you see the accepted exemptions, including a part about obstacles in the path.
it's not a glitch thing, and our members have always been trusted not to break this or any club rule. we've always assumed that anyone joining here "gets" how we all try to let it be golf, and all that it implies.
JC
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Mar 27 2012, 02:28 PM
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I got ya... I will say though now that I've played for a couple hours there is a lot of improvement over the beta but I wouldn't call this as much a sim as they are.... I shouldn't be getting the same distance with a soft dead wrist swing as I do with a lot of turn in the wrists but its still fun and I'm starting to get a better grasp of the putting.
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JoeCool
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Apr 12 2012, 07:56 AM
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- Jan 12 2012, 09:47 AM
CLUB WIDE RULES OF PLAY - 2012 EDITION PREFACE As the game and what the club plays changes, so must our guidelines and rules. We are taking into account the trend of harder play, and the wealth of EA Online tie-in available on a daily and weekly basis. Some concerns were unheard of a year ago, and many of them have been successfully solved by our Member Trustees on the fly. These Rules are meant to reflect these solutions as we carry on. These Rules will apply to ALL club casual and tournament gameplay. Game Glitches and any possible relief of them has been given special and expanded attention. Other than that, it is hoped that the amended Rules are simpler and more straightforward. They are effective immediately. GENERAL All club games are played UNRANKED. Casual Password is "iwgc" or other fun entry, also use these for Tournament practice rounds. Tournament Passwords will be tournament/round specific. Results will count without exception. Everyone should be clear regarding their status during an OFFICIAL round. Good manners will be to let the winner of one round or match set the next. He/she may defer. Intentional disconnects are not allowed without good reason. Unintentional disconnects should come with an excuse or apology, and be accepted graciously. Any trend of continously disconnecting from games will come under review. Whatever the game or version, everyone should do their best to include all wanting to play.
OFFICIAL CLUB/EA ONLINE TOURNAMENT PLAY Club games are played with another member, matching score posts & confirmations required. EA Online activity is to be First Try & One-And-Done without exception. FT/OAD _____Set XBox & PS3 Country Club rounds for 2 Tries and 1 Submission, in case of technical malfunction.
Seperate or special FT/OAD personas should be used if needed, use normal/regular for retries. A score posting is required to be considered a participant. _____Having the XBox & PS3 Country Clubs does not supercede this rule. All restrictions to specific conditions should be follwed ie. Focus or no, Motion-Plus, Putting style. Disconnects - Club Games - Restart at point of last successsfullly played hole by unanimous agreement. Disconnects - EA Online - Restart the round if desired, and report an accurate score to the best of your ability with explanation. Tee To Green, there will be no restriction regarding clubs or shot types.
GREENPLAY The ONLY club to be used on the green is the Putter, regardless of distance to the hole. The only exception would be an area of Fringe, Fairway, Rough, or Bunker DIRECTLY in the path. ONE and ONLY ONE Chip-Pitch is allowed at discretion in this case. The Fringe is not considered to be the Green surface, and any shot/club is allowed
The Penalty for an infraction of this or any Rule will be 1 STROKE, so you might as well take a shot with the putter.
GAME GLITCHES Glitches happen and are considered to be part of everyday experience. Some are very real and can be easily documented with photos or videos. Sometimes a playing partner or the group can be keeping track of things and confirm the occurence, while others are more subjective in nature. The Rules are a combination of personal experience and observation, and some solutions are based on previously used good practices. Presented in no particular order...
Glass Holes - This will be defined as a gently and reasonably struck tap-in from close range that travels directly over the hole as if it wasn't there. Close Range is defined as when the ball and cup are both visible in the first person view, within about a single grid of green. If it occurs beyond this range, consider the putt to be struck too hard. Glass/Invisible Walls in front of the cup - These are obvious. The immediate solution is to re-putt with aim to an extreme edge. Relief will be summarized at the end. Chip/Pitch/Putts that get the OB signal and undeserved stroke/strokes applied. Relief will be summarized at the end. Water and Bunker hazard shots that record as OB are known. Relief will be summarized at the end. OB off the Tee, OB on approach (non hole-out), seemingly unreal OB areas on the course - Care should be taken during rounds to make sure of proper Wii-Mote calibration. No relief can be entertained. Course knowledge is the only defense against any of the unreal OB areas around the course.
Glitch Relief: Club rounds with member partner - It may be possible that your partner or group (TW11) was in a position to observe. This cannot be expected or taken for granted, only discussed, agreement made, and matching score postings/confirmations be made to the scoring thread. Assume only that our members are here and playing because they subscribe to the spirit of the game, wanting accuracy and fairness to prevail.
Glitch Relief: EA Online/Solo Play - Here we will also include the matter of Holes-In-One/Aces, and any other special shots (ex. Dbl. Eagle) that qualify for special club awards or recognition. Depending on the nature of the glitch or shot, some form of photographic or video proof is REQUIRED. HIO/ACE shots can easily be proven with a still of the scorecard after the round is complete, while others would require a video of the game or timeframe. Evidence will be reviewed as needed, and all should rest assured that the good, honest words and accounts of our members comes before any doubt.
It is hoped that this is all complete and clear, and removes any pressure from individuals to make considerations and judgement calls.
and...HEY!!! Don't forget to have some FUN!!!
JCAlso see: IWGC Site Etiquette & Rules added 2 additional lines to the Rules to cover some new XBox & PS3 issues. these clarification are in BOLD TYPE
while the 1-Try / 1-Submission is an answer to longstanding issues on the Wii, it doesnt cover a console or server malfunction on the other consoles for TW13.
the Country Clubs add a new area of detail and fun, and are considered an extension on what we have always done, not a replacement.
JC
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JoeCool
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Aug 19 2012, 12:47 PM
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JC
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- JoeCool
- Apr 12 2012, 07:56 AM
- JoeCool
- Jan 12 2012, 09:47 AM
CLUB WIDE RULES OF PLAY - 2012 EDITION PREFACE As the game and what the club plays changes, so must our guidelines and rules. We are taking into account the trend of harder play, and the wealth of EA Online tie-in available on a daily and weekly basis. Some concerns were unheard of a year ago, and many of them have been successfully solved by our Member Trustees on the fly. These Rules are meant to reflect these solutions as we carry on. These Rules will apply to ALL club casual and tournament gameplay. Game Glitches and any possible relief of them has been given special and expanded attention. Other than that, it is hoped that the amended Rules are simpler and more straightforward. They are effective immediately. GENERAL All club games are played UNRANKED. Casual Password is "iwgc" or other fun entry, also use these for Tournament practice rounds. Tournament Passwords will be tournament/round specific. Results will count without exception. Everyone should be clear regarding their status during an OFFICIAL round. Good manners will be to let the winner of one round or match set the next. He/she may defer. Intentional disconnects are not allowed without good reason. Unintentional disconnects should come with an excuse or apology, and be accepted graciously. Any trend of continously disconnecting from games will come under review. Whatever the game or version, everyone should do their best to include all wanting to play.
OFFICIAL CLUB/EA ONLINE TOURNAMENT PLAY Club games are played with another member, matching score posts & confirmations required. EA Online activity is to be First Try & One-And-Done without exception. FT/OAD _____Set XBox & PS3 Country Club rounds for 2 Tries and 1 Submission, in case of technical malfunction.
Seperate or special FT/OAD personas should be used if needed, use normal/regular for retries. A score posting is required to be considered a participant. _____Having the XBox & PS3 Country Clubs does not supercede this rule. All restrictions to specific conditions should be follwed ie. Focus or no, Motion-Plus, Putting style. Disconnects - Club Games - Restart at point of last successsfullly played hole by unanimous agreement. Disconnects - EA Online - Restart the round if desired, and report an accurate score to the best of your ability with explanation. Tee To Green, there will be no restriction regarding clubs or shot types.
GREENPLAY The ONLY club to be used on the green is the Putter, regardless of distance to the hole. The only exception would be an area of Fringe, Fairway, Rough, or Bunker DIRECTLY in the path. ONE and ONLY ONE Chip-Pitch is allowed at discretion in this case. The Fringe is not considered to be the Green surface, and any shot/club is allowed
The Penalty for an infraction of this or any Rule will be 1 STROKE, so you might as well take a shot with the putter.
GAME GLITCHES Glitches happen and are considered to be part of everyday experience. Some are very real and can be easily documented with photos or videos. Sometimes a playing partner or the group can be keeping track of things and confirm the occurence, while others are more subjective in nature. The Rules are a combination of personal experience and observation, and some solutions are based on previously used good practices. Presented in no particular order...
Glass Holes - This will be defined as a gently and reasonably struck tap-in from close range that travels directly over the hole as if it wasn't there. Close Range is defined as when the ball and cup are both visible in the first person view, within about a single grid of green. If it occurs beyond this range, consider the putt to be struck too hard. Glass/Invisible Walls in front of the cup - These are obvious. The immediate solution is to re-putt with aim to an extreme edge. Relief will be summarized at the end. Chip/Pitch/Putts that get the OB signal and undeserved stroke/strokes applied. Relief will be summarized at the end. Water and Bunker hazard shots that record as OB are known. Relief will be summarized at the end. OB off the Tee, OB on approach (non hole-out), seemingly unreal OB areas on the course - Care should be taken during rounds to make sure of proper Wii-Mote calibration. No relief can be entertained. Course knowledge is the only defense against any of the unreal OB areas around the course.
Glitch Relief: Club rounds with member partner - It may be possible that your partner or group (TW11) was in a position to observe. This cannot be expected or taken for granted, only discussed, agreement made, and matching score postings/confirmations be made to the scoring thread. Assume only that our members are here and playing because they subscribe to the spirit of the game, wanting accuracy and fairness to prevail.
Glitch Relief: EA Online/Solo Play - Here we will also include the matter of Holes-In-One/Aces, and any other special shots (ex. Dbl. Eagle) that qualify for special club awards or recognition. Depending on the nature of the glitch or shot, some form of photographic or video proof is REQUIRED. HIO/ACE shots can easily be proven with a still of the scorecard after the round is complete, while others would require a video of the game or timeframe. Evidence will be reviewed as needed, and all should rest assured that the good, honest words and accounts of our members comes before any doubt.
It is hoped that this is all complete and clear, and removes any pressure from individuals to make considerations and judgement calls.
and...HEY!!! Don't forget to have some FUN!!!
JCAlso see: IWGC Site Etiquette & Rules added 2 additional lines to the Rules to cover some new XBox & PS3 issues. these clarification are in BOLD TYPE
while the 1-Try / 1-Submission is an answer to longstanding issues on the Wii, it doesnt cover a console or server malfunction on the other consoles for TW13.
the Country Clubs add a new area of detail and fun, and are considered an extension on what we have always done, not a replacement.
JC good to refresh the grey matter occasionally, and "quote" the Rules so the new guys know what we're talking about sometimes. i suppose a rewrite could be in order, because of the shift to PS3 & 360, but we're not quite ready to bury the Wii-Dead yet. besides, good rules for Wii-based play is good rules now too, just look at the intent and spirit of it all.
anyway, while i'm at it, i do want to go into the canon of terms a little. after close to 6 months i'm getting tired of typing "Tournament/Expert, or "TourPro/Hard", or even "Pro/Normal", when i don't want confusion regarding the different TW13 Swing settings and their default Difficulty. so, we'll take the cue from EA itself, and the descriptions they use for the various EA/XBL/PSN Daily and Weeklys...
PAR is Amateur/Easy. enough about that, as the possibilty of play in that setting here are slim, none, or slightly even less.
BIRDIE is the Pro/Normal. this is the setting commonly used for about half of our clubs' Dailys and some Weeklys.
EAGLE is the TourPro/Hard setting. this is comonly used by the PS3 players, and less by the XBox players. there is a reason for that*
ACE is the Tournament/Expert swing. this is commonly used by the XBox players* during our Daily offerings, as well as our share of the Weekly offerings.
*a little background...TW13 and it's effect on Motion-Control, and the differences between how the Move and Kinect played soon pointed out some reasons to use different settings for each console when a common Round or Tournament was set. drawing from discussion. as well as anecdotal and empirical evidence, it was decided that while the PS3 guys were using EAGLE, the XBox guys would have to set ACE. the key element in all this was that all our club veterans came from the Wii TourPro swing, and this is what was required to put both apples and oranges in the same crate.
that is the 4 possible basic swing settings. beyond that, any change to the "Default" will probably create a "Custom" situation. this isnt a perfect thing and has some confusion built in. for example, when EA sets a "Custom Ace" round, it denotes that the Green Grid is OFF. however, anyone setting Country Club rounds knows that the setting does not become "Custom" by doing that.
so, we will probably use different jargon at times to get the point across...and that's why, for example, the upcoming Ace players Championship has been given the "Blind Aces" nickname, to denote that no Green Grid is enabled. it just seemed fitting.
JC
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