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The famous BEAMS engine; and who has them?
Topic Started: Jan 4 2005, 10:10 AM (2,120 Views)
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OK- I will cut & quote the comments from the "Introduce yourself" topic into this one as I get time-

It started with Jason's question-

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When ever I went to have a look at these cars the sales guys always said that the model I was looking at had the BEAMS engine, I don't think I have seen one without a BEAMS engine. Are there Altezzas without BEAMS?

Thinking of getting Vortech type supercharger but I can only find a Kit for an IS300, how much does this engine differ from a AS200?
The Girl's KE70-
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Brian J replied-

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hey there Jason,
all the Altezza's in new zealand would have the BEAMS engine. but if you see any Lexus IS200's, they will have a different engine, mainly the 1g-fe
you got the better half of the deal with the beams engine though dont worry 
theres a vortech sc kit for the is300? make you tell edwin about it!


and Jason posted-
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Finding a supercharger kit For an IS300 is a breeze, follow the links.
Turboeast
IM Racing
Both float around $5G US, but if you can afford a NZ Lexus then you should find that kinda cash in the ashtray. No engine mods for under 10PSI which I like.
However I don't know if my engine is as good as the IS.


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I didn't know the AS200 1G-FE was a beams version? They have exactly the same HP rating as the IS200's 1G-FE so how does that work? If one is beams, i thought the other would be.
I thought only the 3S-GEs were BEAMS anyway!
I believe the IS300 is quite different, as it's a 6-cylinder inline, is it not? They make similar peak HP to the RS200 3SGEs (thus a lot more than the 1GFE), but have a much nicer torque curve.


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I thought the same but ours is a 6Cyl and has big kick arse BEAMS badge slapped across the top of it, I figured that was important but sucked in by a glorified shoe salesman again.
I can show you a photo if you like.
I might have a look at the chassis plate and see what motor it actually has. I thought the only difference was the BEAMS had a Yamaha head.
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http://www.rollaclub.com/board/topic/42407-the-girls-ke70/
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-Frylai posted-
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Welcome,
A lot of Toyota Engines is called Beams, because the "RS200" is alot more popular than the AS200 in Japan and therefore the amount we have in NZ makes alot of salesman think the AS200 dosent have a Beams Engine, both AS and RS200 have a beams engine. Just that the RS have dual VVT-i and was develop by Yamaha, If you need help sourcing a supercharger for the AS200, let me know and I can get hold of a TTE for you from germany.
Matt =)


-and LexBoy sorted it out-
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Jason, if you have an Altezza AS200 then you have 1G-FE like the Lexus IS200, and technically yes, you DO have a BEAMS engine....

All Toyota engines these days with vvt-i are designated BEAMS (Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System) ....so 3S-GE owners don't think you're special  :P , coz technically Shane's Echo has a BEAMS engine - *BEAMS 1NZ-FE* ..... HAHA  :lol:

Altezza AS200/Lexus IS200's 1G-FE and IS300's 2JZ-GE are also BEAMS engines!

don't believe me? check here http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/t...ism%2F&lp=ja_en

Here's a pic of a 1G-FE with a BEAMS 2000 cover....

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what makes the RS200's 3S-GE different from the others is that it was developed by Yamaha....NOT that it is a BEAMS

hope that clears it up
so stop saying "Beams engine" cause it could mean one in dozens of engine!  :D

cheers



-then ?uestlove noted-

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what makes the RS200's 3S-GE different from the others is that it was developed by Yamaha....NOT that it is a BEAMS


Note, the head ONLY is designed by Yamaha, not the whole engine.
And My Echo is 2NZFE (1.5)


-and was swiftly corrected by Lexboy-

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(?uestlove @ Jan 3 2005, 04:06 AM)
And My Echo is 2NZFE  (1.5)


NO, it's not Shane!
1NZ-FE = 1.5 Litres

2NZ-FE = 1.3 Litres
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http://www.rollaclub.com/board/topic/42407-the-girls-ke70/
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My 1JZGTE VVTi is a BEAMS motor as well. All 100 series 1JZ motors were BEAMS motors.
I think it is almost a generic name for the latest technology in VVTi motors.
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No wonder the garage is full.
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Wow, I'm beaming after reading this topic.... :rolleyes:

What should probably be noted is that the 1GFE(AS200) engine is an economy motor, with similar torque to the 3SGE(RS200) engine, but much less top end power, lower compression, lower redline.

TTE make a bolt on supercharger for the 1GFE(AS200) which isn't cheap but goes and sounds GREAT! Blitz make a supercharger for the 3SGE(RS200) engine which i have only read about.

And that's my 200 Yen.

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