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Global Warming
Topic Started: Oct 15 2006, 04:02 PM (408 Views)
cpufix
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Suggest you all go and see the film, AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH.

Excellent film and time to act is now !
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Jase
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Was talking to my friend last night and he told me to go see that film too.

Is it kinda like The Day after Tomorrow?
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greeneyes
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Does it agree with predictweather.com ???

Man-made global warming is nonsense and we are in a warming period due to the moon and sun cycle...
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interesting take on it greeneyes, care to elaborate :D
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greeneyes
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Look up predictweather-

There are stacks of scientists who say we are not causing global warming, but they are politically incorrect and get shouted down by the Govt funded ones who want to keep their arse in a cushy job.

Bit like teh coming ice age that was all the fear when I was young in the '60s.

They planned to cover the ice sheets in ground charcoal to warm the world up...
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cpufix
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The film is narrated by Al Gore the guy who lost to Bush.

Its taking todays evidence and showing what is actually happening, why its happening and what is predicted to happen.

You could say its trying to wake people up to the actual facts and make people ask questions rather than be sheep and accept what politicans don't want to accept.

I'm going to read predictweather.

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Also did you know that 3% of the glaciers in the antarctic and made from penguin urine.... :P
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cpufix
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You don't want to be believing all the stories the wee green guys be telling ya Noel. :rolleyes:

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You might as well have a skim over this Colin-

http://junkscience.com/

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..and as I was looking up next year's weather on predictweather.com I found this-



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Film review: Al Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth”.

We do love being scared or we wouldn’t pay to go on ferris wheels. This film was frightening alright - in its banality. Gore's 'facts' are that the 10 hottest years on record have been recently, but he is wrong - since 1998 the globe has been cooling and 1922 was the hottest on record. With only a 300-yr old thermometer it is still unclear whether the world is heating or cooling. Much is made of a chart with the CO² and the world’s temperatures fitting together almost perfectly with graphs that go back hundreds of thousands of years using ice data, irrefutable photographic records of ice shelves melting, and computer generated images of major cities including New York and the World Trade Centre being inundated with water…etc. but it is all computer extrapolation. Of course they will choose graphs that fit together perfectly, they are making a movie, and it's Hollywood. The same models when run forwards fail to predict current weather.
One is left wondering if nature is responsible for anything. Gore’s film is really a doco about a failed politician that everybody at the time called a dunderhead, touting a failed cause. He brings in his family, his sister died of lung cancer, his son had an accident, and his father either raised Angus bulls, grew tobacco or spent his days in Congress - it was hard to tell exactly which, but somehow it all relates to global warming. In Al's film, it is all our fault. Sure, Al is creaming it, especially with his book of the film that he sells after each seminar, the stacks of which were not shown in the movie. He's no better than an old-school hellfire and brimstone bullies who come to town, take money as donations for "the cause" (the Al Gore Fund) and run.
If it was up to Gore, every industry that burned any fuel, which means ran an engine, would be taxed accordingly. What a victory for the world he wasn’t elected. Meanwhile he travels the world in gas-guzzling jets, delivering night time slide shows which burn electricity, whilst telling us all to do the opposite. The funniest was when as you went past the stile out of the theatre they gave out packets of Eco-Soap Powder, one sachet each, for your washing machine. Yes, that is going to change the climate.
Someone please tell Al that a warmer world is to be wished for. It would make more evaporation which would fix droughts and provide for more water to millions who today go without. It would stop millions from dying from cold because they cannot afford heating bills. It would allow access to and open up N Pole oilfields which would reduce the scare of fuel shortage.
Some facts need to be pointed out by at least one of the skeptics that Gore does not believe exist any more. The planet warmed until 1940, then cooled until around 1970 before warming again until 1998 -- producing a net warming of around 0.6 degrees. Arctic was as warm or warmer in 1940. The Greenland ice sheet is actually growing. On average Greenland was warmer in the 1920s and 1930s than it is now. Polar bears have always migrated to land in late summer when sea ice naturally melts back, and then return to the ice when it re-freezes. Only 20,000 years ago, great ice sheets covered much of North America and Europe; permanent glaciers were also present over southeastern Australia and Tasmania. The sea level was 130m lower than today and land bridges connected New Guinea and Tasmania with the Australian mainland. CO2 is PLANT FOOD. As a greenhouse gas, it is a spent force for climate change; its present concentration is slightly less than 400 parts per million. 66 per cent of the greenhouse effect of CO2 is caused by the first 50ppm. With each doubling of concentration, (from 50 to 100, then to 200 and 400ppm), the incremental advance of the greenhouse effect is reduced. Even for a further doubling to 800ppm, as projected by 2100 in the case of unabated fossil fuel usage, the increase in the greenhouse effect will only be 10 per cent of the present component attributable to CO2. Overall, CO2 is a relatively minor contributor to the greenhouse effect, which is dominated by the varying water vapour and clouds of the atmosphere. Therefore any increasing of the CO2 concentration will have little additional effect. There was as much CO2 in the atmosphere about 11,000 years ago as there is today.
Global warming is constrained by the need to warm the ocean in advance. The polar ice sheets of Greenland and Antarctica are fundamentally stable. Ice cores recovered from there confirm that the ice sheets have survived previous interglacials and have likely existed for more than one million years. The surface elevation of the ice sheets is more than 3km above sea level across much of their extensive plateaus and temperatures remain below minus 10C during the brief summer. Today's temperature at Antarctica is -46degC. It is only at the lower elevations of the coastal margins that temperatures rise above freezing for a few months and the strong solar radiation causes ice-melt. At the highest height the sun ever reaches in the Antarctic summer, about 18deg above the horizon, this can be likened to the sun at 4pm over Auckland. Not only is it not hot enough to melt anything, the rays certainly can't reach through the ozone hole and around the curvature of the earth to reach NZ to form skin cancer.

Collapse of the polar ice sheets and a sea level rise of several metres is an unlikely scenario. Temp at the S pole has declined by more than 1degC since 1950. The area of sea ice around Antarctica has increased over past 20 yrs. The place is getting cooler.
Australia (except for the southwest corner) was wetter during the second half of the 20th century than during the first. The sea level has been rising at a rate of 1.8 mm per year for the past 8,000 years; the Australian National Tidal Facility at Tuvalu in 2002 reported: "The historical record from 1978 through 199 indicated a sea level rise of 0.07 mm per year." Or the width of a hair.
Coral reefs have been around for over 500 million years. This means that they have survived through long periods with much higher temperatures and atmospheric CO2 concentrations than today.

Gore's movie provides an opportunity to spur public debate on the global warming issue. It is critically important for us to become better informed about global warming, how much of it is natural versus manmade and so for once and for all we can wipe away the scammers that play on our fears for their own profit. By now he probably believes the junk science, but Gore in his opportunism of reaping personal money from mass fear and the resulting buffoonery gives us the opportunity to at last talk about it all. Don’t see it. Spend the $15 on more gas for your SUV and go for a big long burn, before Gore and his fanatical friends make you all get bikes. The inconvenient truth is that climate scientists need research funding to put meals on the table. That's science reality today. End of story.
The Girl's KE70-
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How NOT to build a rally car-
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cpufix
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Excellent stuff - thanks Keith .
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Well, it worries me that when Ken Ring dies no-one will have that knowledge available.

He reckons Western metrology has been completely side-tracked by a fascination with the barometer, which measures one part of what is happening with weather.

However, the moon pulls atmospheric tides around the world, the same as it does to the seas, and THAT is the main causes of weather. It also gets closer and further from the Earth, and travels North and South in its orbits over twenty years or more. So in a complicated pattern it repeats weather cycles year after year and decade after decade.

That's what Stonehenge and all the other ancient stone observatories were measuring. He writes daily weather for New Zealand a year or two ahead!

So if you're planning a Club run, then his site is always worth a look for an idea of the general trend!
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