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Topic Started: Nov 21 2007, 09:28 PM (568 Views)
skids
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ok ive been looking for an altezza rs200 here in new zealand.
every dealer i go to tells me a different thing and most of the times even i can tell they are talkin shit.
so here i am.

firstly, are all altezza rs200 engines red top? the other day i saw a blue top... is this possible(does this mean there are blacktops)?

i understand that the rs200 engines are tuned by yamaha, so whats actually done to the engine? does this make it less reliable than as200's 1g-fe engines (toyota being made to LAST!)?
will this mean the rs200 aftermarket turbos will not be as good as the as200 turbos.

this is my first post and im willing to learn so plz direct me in the right direction :D, thanks!
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As far as I know there has only been one version of each engine for the AS200 & the RS200, so the colour doesn't matter.

Yamaha made the head. They didn't do any tuning as far as I know-

The 1GFE is pretty lazy, so maybe it will outlast the 3SGE, although I think the way it is treated will make a bigger difference. The 3SGE is tougher than the 1GFE, so notwithstanding the very high stock compression it should last longer turbo'd.
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ahhh thanks.

i was pritty keen on this car http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...n-126638966.htm .
its also where i saw the blue top. i thought it looked a bit dodgy, like it had been painted blue(thanks to greeneyes i can safely say its a redtop). i asked the owner but he didnt have much knowledge of cars.

it seems like a bargin but i noticed many scratches (driven on gravel a bit mabe?), and a minor accedent to the rear bumper to the left. also when he boosted it the oil guage will fluctuate rapidly (may be something wrong with engine?).
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get a VIR check on it, and that'll tell you some history on the car hopefully. sad thing about buying cars like that is that you dont know if the owner has been an idiot and thrashed the living guts out of the car.....
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For a description of the Altezza 3S-GE, see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_3S-GE

Altezzas used the fourth-generation black top. Never heard of a blue-top before. Maybe it's reduced fat?
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Blue top? Red top? It only matters on a Honda engine :D

You are talking about the blue "Beams" logo on the engine cover right? Na, that doesn't matter, that dude just riced it up abit. Good luck with your search!
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when he boosted it the oil guage will fluctuate rapidly (may be something wrong with engine?).


That would worry me! I'd need a really really good explanation why it did that!

and why does he know this-

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the engine has had a full rebuild to surport a turbo 1:35 pm, Sun 18 Nov


But not this-

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Q-How much hp is it pulling?  posted by: lantis- (4 )  12:35 pm, Sat 17 Nov

A- don't know. lots 1:36 pm, Sun 18 Nov


The first thing ANYONE does after fitting a turbo is a big dynotune to get brag figures!


Plenty of non-turbo'd ones for sale. 440 listed in Trade-me "Altezza" search- buy a nice plain cheap one and save $10k for the turbo. Then you know its been done properly.
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skids
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shit, thanks for the feedback. all info was helpful

this guys dodgy as to the days, its a long story. I also rang him up today and had a little chat... better not say much as he might end up reading this!!!

anyways, ive been thinking... ive decided to settle on getting an altezza (what was i thinking! cant go wrong with an altezza). screw those who say they suck, they obviously wont get a ride :D
dont really care about turbo anymore, prolly gonna do it myself for a project later on.

just looking for, rs200, manual (black would be nice).

ive found this one, http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=127205772 , is it worth the 4hours+ drive to have a look? anyone here had a look at it? in my eyes, it looks like a good deal, dunno about you guys(you guys will know a lot more).

prolly end up getting one from fast4s if i constantly see crappy private sales.
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Everything looks pretty legit with the silver one.

Is it just me or is it slightly lower then stock too?

Kms are nice too.
Contacting me for parts

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yeah, the silver one is lowered on king springs.

looks like ill be going down sometime this week. ive found this one http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...n-128967794.htm down in gisbourne and i thought i might have a look at this aswell scince its close to napier. infact its what im "just looking for, rs200, manual (black would be nice)." bodykit is something different (minus the back).
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skids,Nov 26 2007
07:17 AM
yeah, the silver one is lowered on king springs.

looks like ill be going down sometime this week. ive found this one http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...n-128967794.htm down in gisbourne and i thought i might have a look at this aswell scince its close to napier. infact its what im "just looking for, rs200, manual (black would be nice)." bodykit is something different (minus the back).

Looks good!! Just needs some bigger drift wheels and you’d be away laughing :D

The Turbo one looks nice also, I would defiantly check it out, take it for a drive and see if she pinks.. B)
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well there are 220 Altezzas for sale under about $15000 on Trademe.

That's goning to take a bit of sorting out! :D

Get a nice plain one owned by an old guy! :lol:

Here's a black one, but not owned by an old guy!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...85/k-468286.htm
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greeneyes,Nov 26 2007
02:54 PM
well there are 220 Altezzas for sale under about $15000 on Trademe.

That's goning to take a bit of sorting out! :D

Get a nice plain one owned by an old guy! :lol:

Here's a black one, but not owned by an old guy!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...85/k-468286.htm

That can only reflect on how good these cars are!

But yea, rather you than me skids!
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greeneyes,Nov 26 2007
02:54 PM
well there are 220 Altezzas for sale under about $15000 on Trademe.

Im sure im not the only one wondering what the aussies think about this :lol:

We really are spoilt for choice at the moment arnt we, i see so many now though im sure theres gonna be none in japan soon and theyll all be over here.

Come on IS350s, send a few over here so they drop in price B)
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samzbob,Nov 26 2007
04:14 PM


Come on IS350s, send a few over here so they drop in price B)

My thoughts exactly.. I can’t wait! The few I have seen on trade me seem to be dropping in price, probably due to no one knowing about them as yet.
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A dealer told me that there may not be any more once the new import laws come in
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skids
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lol... reserve met already (4k) and a "6 cylinder beams" engine... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...n-129206090.htm

far out, those under 15k are either high ks, shit condition or out of auckland (will be lucky to find a nice one) :(... will keep looking tho.

btw, i recon buying one already with a bodykit etc works out cheaper. the first thing ill do if i get a plain altezza is to slam a bodykit on.

yeah, kinda good thing that altezzas wont be imported when the new laws come IMO.
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Jase,Nov 22 2007
02:37 PM
Blue top? Red top? It only matters on a Honda engine :D

You are talking about the blue "Beams" logo on the engine cover right? Na, that doesn't matter, that dude just riced it up abit. Good luck with your search!

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Blue top? Red top? refers to like toyota engines like the 4age
blue tops in like ae86's and ae82's
red tops in ae92
and black tops in ae101's

so i dont get where u got honda engines from
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Spanky69r,Nov 26 2007
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Jase,Nov 22 2007
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Blue top?  Red top?  It only matters on a Honda engine :D

You are talking about the blue "Beams" logo on the engine cover right?  Na, that doesn't matter, that dude just riced it up abit.  Good luck with your search!

no
Blue top? Red top? refers to like toyota engines like the 4age
blue tops in like ae86's and ae82's
red tops in ae92
and black tops in ae101's

so i dont get where u got honda engines from

You have the red from the type R engines, blue from the Accord SIR I think they are.

But yes, you're right, Toyota gets different colour tops too. Sorry my bad ;)
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Jase,Nov 27 2007
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Spanky69r,Nov 26 2007
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Jase,Nov 22 2007
02:37 PM
Blue top?  Red top?  It only matters on a Honda engine :D

You are talking about the blue "Beams" logo on the engine cover right?  Na, that doesn't matter, that dude just riced it up abit.  Good luck with your search!

no
Blue top? Red top? refers to like toyota engines like the 4age
blue tops in like ae86's and ae82's
red tops in ae92
and black tops in ae101's

so i dont get where u got honda engines from

You have the red from the type R engines, blue from the Accord SIR I think they are.

But yes, you're right, Toyota gets different colour tops too. Sorry my bad ;)

hmmm i suppose u could be right to haha but u never really get people refering to them as red, blue etc tops
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alimac,Nov 26 2007
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A dealer told me that there may not be any more once the new import laws come in


Why would the IS350 not meat new import rules, defiantly nothing to do with safety as they have like 47 airbags.. Maybe the new rules are similar to Australian rules that mean you can’t bring in models that are 90% the same NZ new models?? If so this would be good for the local new car market, and protect people from killer depreciation on the likes of a EVO or similar JDM identical models.


A lot of manufacturers paint things different colours to signify a special or performance model, had a Primera with factory Red Top-SR20-DE, Honda do it with their Type R models (blue sometimes) and as you say Toyota had Blue, Red and black lettering on their 16Valve 4AGE $ and Silver and Black on their 20valves, BMW have painted rockers different colours in the past to signify evolutions and the list goes on..
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skids,Nov 21 2007
07:28 PM
ok ive been looking for an altezza rs200 here in new zealand.
every dealer i go to tells me a different thing and most of the times even i can tell they are talkin shit.
so here i am.

firstly, are all altezza rs200 engines red top? the other day i saw a blue top... is this possible(does this mean there are blacktops)?

i understand that the rs200 engines are tuned by yamaha, so whats actually done to the engine? does this make it less reliable than as200's 1g-fe engines (toyota being made to LAST!)?
will this mean the rs200 aftermarket turbos will not be as good as the as200 turbos.

this is my first post and im willing to learn so plz direct me in the right direction :D, thanks!

the red top is the 3rd gen FWD/4WD spec BEAMS 3sge, the rs200 uses the blacktop...bluetop does not exist

also 'tuned' is a ridiculous American word. get it out of your vocab quick smart :D
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A dealer told me that there may not be any more once the new import laws come in


I think he's kidding himself. The new laws are trying to stop early '90s cars getting in.

Altezzas are still current for fuel and emissions as far as I know.
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