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| Tweet Topic Started: May 22 2011, 03:15 PM (3,704 Views) | |
| 4TEZNU | May 22 2011, 03:15 PM Post #1 |
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Hey guys! Am looking at turbing my 3gse but everyone that's done it has had to spend thousands on top of the turbo kit fixing up the engines! So I was thinking if I can get all your knowledge now it would save me alot of money and time. Have already gotten a turbo kit, but am looking for a second kit as well as have a mate wanting to do the same Any recommendations or ideas or engine suggestions will be awesome. Thanks! Note: I updated the thread so that if anyone comes on they know what im doing now. Tubring my Altezza |
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| arama | May 22 2011, 03:36 PM Post #2 |
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I'm looking at putting in a turbo on the 3sge, just soon after I do a few more things. I might be wrong, but I thought you were getting rid of your altezza, I think I saw you watching an auction for a evo 7 a couple weeks back, think it was down in b.o.p. I would've brought it if i could have checked it out / was in auckland. |
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| 4TEZNU | May 22 2011, 03:47 PM Post #3 |
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Yeah that was up but I really like my altezza! I don't know why just have some attachment to it! But isn't the performance I want out of it unfortunately. I been looking at evos but they're all in poor condition under 25k and I don't want to spend that much on one! It's still for sale if your interested? But not actively trying to sell it at this present point in time. Thanks |
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| arama | May 22 2011, 04:21 PM Post #4 |
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Keep your tezz, putting in a nissan plant would be fun! I'll prob go down the turbo route, which won't really help my main problem with performance with low revs like a sc would but is cheaper for me. Currently looking at getting a second hand kit from japan for cheap! I looked at eng swap and ended up costing more than turb, depending on how much you can get the kit for. plus i like the way they drive with the 3sge in it, changing eng and weight distribution would spoil it for me |
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| E910 | May 22 2011, 05:09 PM Post #5 |
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What about a 1JZGTE, better than a RB25 IMO. Nicks got brand new R154 boxes to suit. Or you could drop a 3SGTE in from a ST215 like Leiden did. Either way you're looking at a big bill |
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| 4TEZNU | May 22 2011, 05:20 PM Post #6 |
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Trouble is 1jz doesn't get enough power. The twin cam rb25det does 206kw stock! And easily can get heaps more with only minor mods Yes a big bill buying the engine but I cam get a engine and gearbox for 2k and sell mine which I currently have making the overall bill smaller than spending money on s turbo kit. Like I mentioned nick, Corey both have had so many troubles with turbing there's and had to change all internals ect and I just recon that will cost more than buying a already turbo engine. So no one has any idea if I can get a engine like that into the altezza? Thanks |
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| alimac | May 22 2011, 05:23 PM Post #7 |
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Anything can be done if you are prepared to throw enough money at it. You are probably best to keep asking. Try asking on Tezzaworld and MY IS forums as well. |
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| 4TEZNU | May 22 2011, 10:01 PM Post #8 |
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Thanks for that, found a guy who put a rb26dett in an altezza! Wow! But not much info on how to.. So still looking for help! |
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| Maccabro | May 23 2011, 07:33 AM Post #9 |
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most 1jz engines are 206kw anyway man! they are way more reliable than the nissan rb series engines and would cost you the same or less to buy than a sr20 and way more cheaper than a rb26. a jz series engine would be the way to go bro! [f**k] the nissan shit. |
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| Distrb | May 23 2011, 09:07 AM Post #10 |
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^ this is the way to go if you want more power than a 3sge turbo/3sgte will give you reliably. Yep, you can put any motor into your altezza that will physically fit. But the more custom fab work you have to do to get them in there, the more it is going to cost, which is why jz series engines are more cost effective. |
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| xnickx | May 23 2011, 09:31 AM Post #11 |
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^^ You may thank me ^^
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VVTI 1JZGTE is also 206KW. Google around and you will see most choosing a 1JZ over an RB25: http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....showtopic=30843 |
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| Geoff897 | May 23 2011, 11:34 AM Post #12 |
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Manual R33 halfcut and manual 1JZGTE halfcut's are about the same price. Either one you choose will cost over $10000 to install into a altezza. How much power do you want and what is the car used for? |
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| 4TEZNU | May 23 2011, 08:13 PM Post #13 |
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Went and talked to my mechanic today and you guys are right, so I ordered a turbo kit and Ann emanage ultimate, only cost 1500 for a kit and 800 for computer so will be under 3k installed which I'm pretty happy about considering a 1jz engine and gear box was over 3k alone! Nick, I was reading your page on your altezza as you had a few issues. Just wondering what I can get off you in terms of wisdom and parts. Really want new pistons and rods so the same thing doesn't happen to me as you bit don't really know what I'm looking for? And does anyone know a proper dyno tuner in Palmerston north? I want to run 10psi daily driven on 95 so does anyone have any heads up in terms of parts I'll need or advise or problems I will come into? Thanks for your opionions, keep them coming! |
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| 4TEZNU | May 23 2011, 08:16 PM Post #14 |
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Oh also nick I will need a new flywheel to handle the power, the one I have isnt new so it's not the best! Will be still using the heavy duty clutch, what do you have in stock? |
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| jeremyflower | May 23 2011, 08:43 PM Post #15 |
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1UZ or 3UZ? Why bother with turbos if you don't need to? |
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| BUMBLE.BEE | May 23 2011, 10:32 PM Post #16 |
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Spooling sounds wicked... Haha! Personally i would love to see another 3UZ be built! The grunt would ould be just as awesome as some sweet spooling noises! Haha. Im not much help but either way - Goodluck mate! So happy to see that you have plans to keep the Tez! Good on ya!Trent B. |
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| Soiled Altezza | May 24 2011, 03:37 AM Post #17 |
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If you're only running 10psi on a TD04 or similar then stock internals are fine, bigger injectors and fuel pump help, but ensure you have a good tune. My engine still looked wonderful when it was pulled apart to do the bigger build after 3 years and 70,000 kms. |
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| 4TEZNU | May 24 2011, 06:16 PM Post #18 |
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Ok thanks, does th td04 spool good at low rpm? Looking to get the turbo giving boost from 3000 - 7600 rpm. Is any brand of turbo is good? I brought 540cc injectors of a caldina gtt, but don't know what's a good fuel pump. Will be getting it professionally dynotuned, but don't know if there's a tuner in Palmerston north. Thanks! |
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| Soiled Altezza | May 24 2011, 09:15 PM Post #19 |
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You'll have no problem getting the turbo to spool before 3k. STM in Wellington have an awesome reputation for tuning. If you find the person who's going to do the tuning ask them what they'd reccommend in the way of fuel pumps/turbo or anything else as they should know. |
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| 4TEZNU | May 24 2011, 10:05 PM Post #20 |
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Yeah I've heard of them, only problem is I have to get kit installed in palmy and I can drive an untuned car 2 hours without causeing damage. But a company as good as that would be ideal! |
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| xnickx | May 24 2011, 11:05 PM Post #21 |
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You'll have no problems getting the TD04H to spool under 3K it's only a small but very responsive unit!or just the gun and go for a Garrett GT2860RS or a 2nd hand unit off an S15 as they are also Garrett T28 units and are ball bearing too! for the dyno, try these guys: Roskilda Autos Ltd 24 Pirani Place Takaro, Palmerston North (06) 355-1293 or Fortec Performance 56 Taonui Street Palmerston North 4410 (06) 355-2396 Best to ring them both first and see what they recommend, they may have a preferred ECU or similar (many will only tune what they know) |
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| Distrb | May 25 2011, 08:30 AM Post #22 |
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Pretty sure these guys tuned maccabro's one with powerfc. Even if they didnt do his one, i know they have experience with altezza turbos. STM will refuse to tune your car if you are using the e-manage ecu. |
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| 4TEZNU | May 25 2011, 05:20 PM Post #23 |
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Ok cool I will give them a call tomorrow, whys that? |
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| Maccabro | May 27 2011, 07:32 AM Post #24 |
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rodney @ roskilda done the tune on mine, i run a apexi turbo kit and apexi power fc. not to sure if he will tune a e-manage tho. id rcomend decompressing your engine before you get it done (as i shouldve) to get a decent power increase. for a fuel pump i use a walbro 255ltr/hr in tank pump. i hope your not going to use one of those cheap nasty turbo kits off trademe? u in palmy? |
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| Maccabro | May 27 2011, 05:26 PM Post #25 |
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i havent heard of this place in palmy, might have to check them out. |
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