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Oil In Intercooler And Pipng? Blowen Turbo?; turbo problems
Topic Started: Jan 6 2012, 05:13 PM (2,617 Views)
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have recently installed new engine and all runs fine have noticed some blue smoke from exhaust and after inspection ic pipes and cooler are full of oil my only guess is blowen turbo??? what flange is the turbo from trhe greedy kit i have and what should i replace it with??

any help would be great
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It uses a T28 flange and replace it with a disco potato (aka gt2860rs)
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looked at them prettyt pricey looking for a bolt on so it can be driven like it should haha
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T28 flange Disco potato is as bolt on as it gets. These turbos are a perfect size for the beams.

Or you could just get another TD04H-16t, another option is to highflow and rebuild your current turbo....
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looking to rebuild i think still unsure why its blowing blue smoke my only geuss is that its the turbo because theres no toher way for oil to be on both sides of the inercooler
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Blue smoke means you have most likely have cracked your piston bud or your turbo seals have had it and its blowing oil mist straight into your cylinders. Rings are more likely to be white smoke because not as much oil can get in.

On the other hand Whats your oil pressure like? If its really high on start up i would be looking at your pcv and erg systems and installing a catch can. What might be happening is if its really faulty, excess oil might be getting caught up in the blow by gasses and getting dumped into your intake wich is causing excess blue smoke and the rest is condensating in your intercooler.

Check your PCV valve and compression test your cylinders before looking at the turbo, if they are all good then rebuild you turbo and lay of the dosing!
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Oil in the intercooler and piping is nothing to stress about. Get an oil catch can to stop it happening.
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iv got thebreather venting under car so no oil can get into intake and its on both sides of intercooler so it must be the turbo??? i took the elbow off the throttle body and theres a pool of oil in the intake so il get a compression check so if comprssntestcomes back fine its the turbo???
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hay guys

would this work asa rebuild and compressor upgrade??
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Hey there tracy, is your car running fine at idill etc, if not clean your maf and try that, c if that makes a difference, does your car miss a beat when you turn it over for starting, if so id say you have broken a piston around the ring lands, thats what mine was doing, have you got oil coming out of your pod filter if you were to get a different turbo youl have to book your car in for a retune on the dyno
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if your motor is screwed il be taking it back to subparts and say you want a refund if its that engine, im not sure if they will do a warrenty on it if they know it was turbo, them c***s up there are homos, cheers
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tracys my mum.. haha im ben but yea it starts on the second crank so i dont think its pistons ae am goin to mechanic for chat to night will let you know
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tezznu,Jan 8 2012
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tracys my mum.. haha im ben but yea it starts on the second crank so i dont think its pistons ae am goin to mechanic for chat to night will let you know

Oh so sorry about that um, is the engine stil running mint besides the turbo and blue smoke, get a compression test and c how that goes
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I'd be chasing a gt2871 turbo. Same response and a much more efficient compressor than the 2860.
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yea engine runs fine toke it for a hoon to dunedin in weekend runs mint a party from ugky blue smoke :( went to local turbo specialist and he said its got far to muchend float and it most likly doesnt have the 1mm restricot on oil feed :(
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Oh shit balls!!! who installed the turbo! Thats pure neglegance!!! Easy fix but I would be stripping out your entire intake and degreasing that, refitting your pcv system to a catch can setup and checking the play on your compressor wheel.

If your getting any more then 5mm of play then you need to rebuild it but chances are that amount of pressure has blown the seals anyway given what you said. I would put it all back together and start saving up on a disco potato. It was brilliantly responsive on my Gt4 ST185. As for the GT2871r, it might just be a little to overkill for a stock 3SGE It would be nice if you got the compression down to 10.5:1 with stacked gaskets but how long it will last, who knows...
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iv poped one engine 3 shattered pistions and a bent rod not super keen paying for that experiance again :( js gona get rebuilt i think save some pennys and transplant......
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tezznu,Jan 9 2012
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iv poped one engine 3 shattered pistions and a bent rod not super keen paying for that experiance again :( js gona get rebuilt i think save some pennys and transplant......

Bugger that suxs, how do u know it broken 3 pistons, did the compression test tell you, yup im going through the same trouble as you, I have spear pistons here if ur keen but id fully forge it to be safe, how much boost we're u running
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Was running 6psi but was using shit fuel and got mad detonation still managed to drive to the mechanic he pulled apart the 3 shattered pistons were down 40psi on compression was a right mess!
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Wow! See the biggest reason you shouldnt turbo an Altezza is because of the high compression ratio. You need to run a fuel with a high octane rating to save you from detonation with such a high compression ratio.

Turbo charging increases the cylinder pressure which increases already high (from high Compression ratio) temperature which makes the cylinder more prone to pre detination which is the main cause of spun bearings and cracked cylinders... Use a octane rating of 98RON means it will detonate at a much higher temperature
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Tezz-Winnie,Jan 9 2012
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Wow! See the biggest reason you shouldnt turbo an Altezza is because of the high compression ratio. You need to run a fuel with a high octane rating to save you from detonation with such a high compression ratio.

Turbo charging increases the cylinder pressure which increases already high (from high Compression ratio) temperature which makes the cylinder more prone to pre detination which is the main cause of spun bearings and cracked cylinders... Use a octane rating of 98RON means it will detonate at a much higher temperature

I was using 98 and running 10psi. My compression was 9.4.1 and it detonated, not sure y this happened must of been a shit tune
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Boost spike, intercooler heatsoak (most likely from all the oil) or you could have had so much oil in your cylinder that it raised the cylinder pressure and poped it.

The latter happens to water injected engines quite often from poor tuning. What ecu were you using?
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I Run power fc runs 98 only now js bit pissed after putting new motor in and turbo shits its self :(
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tezznu,Jan 9 2012
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I Run power fc runs 98 only now js bit pissed after putting new motor in and turbo shits its self :(

haha yeah im running power fc too
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Sweet I Gota quote of 330 to rebuild the tdo4 reasonable I thort will be in fir a re Tyne once turbo is fixed running external gate and new fuel pump would like to c 280rwho haha
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