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| allanmloveday | Mar 29 2012, 08:18 PM Post #1 |
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Hey Guys, Has anyone noticed that their RS200 is quite slow in starting? As in, you have to have the key turned round quite a while (a couple of seconds) for the engine to start and it also sounds quite strange too. A friend of mine has an RS200 as well with the same issue. I will take a recording and post it somewhere too. Cheers |
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| Beanman | Mar 29 2012, 09:11 PM Post #2 |
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My AS200 is the same. Takes maybe 2-3 seconds but only in the morning. |
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| E910 | Mar 30 2012, 08:26 AM Post #3 |
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Yep that's pretty standard. You can do a few things to improve this like running a 0w-30 or light 5w-30 oil, Iridium spark plugs & upgrading the battery to a larger IS200 spec one. |
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| roderick92 | Mar 30 2012, 09:08 AM Post #4 |
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What E910 said really... Same for my RS200 and AS200. But it seems AS200 starts easier somewhat.. (probably just my imagination) |
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| Soiled Altezza | Mar 30 2012, 09:33 AM Post #5 |
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Turn your key to the on position and leave it until the fuel pump stops whineing then crank and see if that makes a difference. Have to do this for mine or it takes for ever to start. |
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| Tezz-Winnie | Mar 30 2012, 09:47 AM Post #6 |
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For good reason lol |
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| Soiled Altezza | Mar 30 2012, 11:40 AM Post #7 |
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Yes. |
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| greeneyes | Mar 30 2012, 12:26 PM Post #8 |
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Ahem... the fuel pump doesn't start pumping until you hit the "start" position with the key. Having just taken a fuel sample out of the rail connection, I found no fuel came out at all with the key just "on", and when you cranked it suddenly it flowed. Kept flowing for a couple of seconds after the key was turned off... quite exciting when the jar filled up! The whine is something to do with the sound system I think. |
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| Soiled Altezza | Mar 30 2012, 07:27 PM Post #9 |
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Definitely fuel pump I can hear before I start up (take back seat off and you can pinpoint it, may be easier to notice with a factory pump like this). Maybe it's just the pump primeing? Some how not getting to the rail? I'm not real 100% on what fuel pumps do apart from the whole pumping fuel thing. |
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| nz_climber | Mar 30 2012, 07:56 PM Post #10 |
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I agree with green eyes. Pump on my car only goes after hitting the start button. And stays on for a couple of seconds after switched off |
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| Soiled Altezza | Mar 30 2012, 08:46 PM Post #11 |
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So when your key is to the full on position but not cranking your pump doesnt make a noise For a couple seconds? Mine always has, and definitely does now as you can hear the pump outside of the car. |
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| turbo tezza | Mar 30 2012, 09:06 PM Post #12 |
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I can hear my fuel pump in the 'on' position, probably something to do with the power-fc and the walbro in-tank fuel pump. If it doesn't fire on the first crank it floods itself lol. |
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| tuiman | Mar 31 2012, 07:57 AM Post #13 |
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yep mine did it the other day i couldn't figure out y it wouldn't start, so i kept winding it an it eventually started |
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| greeneyes | Mar 31 2012, 09:46 AM Post #14 |
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Could be, maybe there are two parts to the pump, a supply side and a pressure side, so it doesn't build up injection pressure until the motor is cranking. I hear the whine, but have never figured out what it was. Certainly there is no flow if you undo the fuel line junction at the rail. |
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| Leiden | Mar 31 2012, 10:41 AM Post #15 |
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On a standard Altezza the fuel pump will only run when it gets a STA signal (Start signal), it runs a single feed line to the rail with an in-tank regulator, the feed line should remain pressurised when the pump shuts off so no need to prime. The 3sgte I have is exactly the same apart from it runs a 1:1 regulator on the fuel rail its self with a return to the tank. I think the delayed starting has more to do with crank angle, or at least it needs to see the tdc signal from the crank/cam sensor before it can do fuel / ignition events. That or your battery / stator is getting tired. However an after market ecu may do this differently? |
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| allanmloveday | Mar 31 2012, 04:48 PM Post #16 |
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Thanks for all the feedback. I'll try new oil in it too. However, it's got pretty new stuff in it. Will leave it for a bit and see if it makes a difference when I change it. It mostly seems to be in the mornings and when I haven't driven it for a while. |
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