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Timer Balls; Timer Balls to be used to automaticaly catch shinys
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Temproux Jun 9 2011, 11:50 PM Post #31
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Don't you see that what you are suggesting is totally against the nature of playing? You are proposing to give an advantadge to people who don't play, they just just run the game and let it go. If they want to catch shiny pokemon, stay and wait for them to show up, like the rest of players do.
The same could of been said back when there was only one capturable pikachu in veridian forrest.

Not only that but i think that giving the pokeballs a capture chance is arguably going against the nature of the game aswell as adding the great, ultra and master balls respectively not to mention making pokemon harder to capture than it already is.

Also consider that the player will have to save up enough 'pke to be able to by a timer ball so they will consome more time trying to get a timer ball to get a shiny then a normal player who could have caught 10 by then.
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Dark Jun 10 2011, 12:18 AM Post #32
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first of all there is a hacked version of this game anybody can make over 1 m of cash in one day, and still play on normal version but what you say is that someone is lazy or going to afk can use it, think that you are this lazy person because if you miss or you missed rare pkm or shiny one thats why u want that idea to be so grat of course there will be more ppl that will say it's good because they are lazy too and they will always want things like that in game then when the game is automised what will happen? game will play itself maybe? you will just need to go to actuall game and thats it (so what is the point of this game then) think about it and don't be lazy even if u have one of those pkm it's not just right to have even one
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Spivol Jun 10 2011, 12:24 AM Post #33
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The nature of the game is that you have to make some effort to get things. Mysticman said it and I copy it:

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It's bad enough that people can AFK train/money grind with minimal effort, rending achievements pertaining to money/high levels less of a big deal (with perhaps a couple exceptions like abra), making shinies auto-catch would make things even worse in terms of taking away potential achievements.


You can get money, level your pokemon and compelte the first achievement just by running the game. Now you want to be able to catch pokemon without any effort, what will be next? An item that selects your team and starts the level by itself?

I understand it's boring to watch your screen for a long time just to catch a shiny pokemon but that's why they are rare, because you have to make an effort to have them. If you could catch them almost free what is the point of shinies? There would be no longer desirable, just a normal pokemon with a different colour.
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Temproux Jun 10 2011, 12:34 AM Post #34
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first of all there is a hacked version of this game anybody can make over 1 m of cash in one day, and still play on normal version but what you say is that someone is lazy or going to afk can use it, think that you are this lazy person because if you miss or you missed rare pkm or shiny one thats why u want that idea to be so grat of course there will be more ppl that will say it's good because they are lazy too and they will always want things like that in game then when the game is automised what will happen? game will play itself maybe? you will just need to go to actuall game and thats it (so what is the point of this game then) think about it and don't be lazy even if u have one of those pkm it's not just right to have even one
lazy is not the reason.

I play the game fairly and caught a decent amount of shinys because i have time from doing other things.

But the friends that i know play this game value their work over this GAME!

If you are playing any game over the work that you are doing is that not being LAZY.
granted that a large portion of the community will probably spend that time on facebook or on newgrounds, but ask youself this "is there any skill what so ever in staring at the screen for 10 or more minutes just to spot and catch a shiny".
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I will tell you this because you don't seem to understand. I'm 20 year and i'm a programmer my self I'm going to university this year (i'm not a game programmer but i learned flash) i have lots of work to do but i never complained that i have couple of shiny pkms and i have never wanted to have more in such an easy way because there is no point, why should i lie to myself that i catched something. Think about it there are lots of staff that makes this game easy, and when the game is easier the more borring it becomes. I told you too that it would be good idea ot worth consideration when multiplayer will start but now it's just nor proper
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Temproux Jun 10 2011, 12:57 AM Post #36
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I will tell you this because you don't seem to understand. I'm 20 year and i'm a programmer my self I'm going to university this year (i'm not a game programmer but i learned flash) i have lots of work to do but i never complained that i have couple of shiny pkms and i have never wanted to have more in such an easy way because there is no point, why should i lie to myself that i catched something. Think about it there are lots of staff that makes this game easy, and when the game is easier the more borring it becomes. I told you too that it would be good idea ot worth consideration when multiplayer will start but now it's just nor proper
ok it seems only fair to give some details about me:
i'm 18 and finnishing my first of HE IT university course, and planning to get into game programming.

though i will admit that using 'pke to purchase a timer ball (if this idea happens) will be too easy giving the details you gave.
so lets say that pokemon randomly drop gold nuggets (with the same percent chance as finding a shiny in the wild in the original game series) and the gold nugget can be either sold or traded in for a timer ball.

does this look more feasible? :-/
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improved idea but still as for me no good. I will not say that this is wrong i know you believe in your idea thats why i will just "shut up" now and let other decide because as for me thats a no. Sorry and thx for all the effor you made to make people believe too XD
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Temproux Jun 10 2011, 01:19 AM Post #38
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improved idea but still as for me no good. I will not say that this is wrong i know you believe in your idea thats why i will just "shut up" now and let other decide because as for me thats a no. Sorry and thx for all the effor you made to make people believe too XD
Yeah i can respect your decision and I think that this idea is incompleat.
I think that the option should be there but has heavy drawbacks.
And yes i completly agreed when you said that if the game gets too simple it will be boring.
but that is why i am trying to give this item some heavy penalties to compensate for that as i still think the option should be there.

I will now edit the topic post and ask for improvements as to how to wiegh it down to make getting this item feel like an achievment and in turn getting more satisfaction from catching a shiny

anyway thx for the comments they really helped
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@Dark All i can say is this, you seem to be missing the point that Temproux is making, all he wants is pokeballs that capture shinys so you don't have to constantly watch the game, so if that's too easy for people make the price of them higher like 100,000 pke, ive got more than that since i can't spend it on anything usefull, but let me ask you this Dark, do you actually enjoy sitting there endlessly watching your screen to get a shiny? Because if you do, then that is pretty sad to be honest
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@Dark All i can say is this, you seem to be missing the point that Temproux is making, all he wants is pokeballs that capture shinys so you don't have to constantly watch the game, so if that's too easy for people make the price of them higher like 100,000 pke, ive got more than that since i can't spend it on anything usefull, but let me ask you this Dark, do you actually enjoy sitting there endlessly watching your screen to get a shiny? Because if you do, then that is pretty sad to be honest
don't worry he does not aggree but he still sees what I am saying.
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i actually think the timer ball is a good idea because i get frustrated alot of times when i see a shiny but my hand is not on the mouse so my pokemon kills the shiny and i miss it and since there is a .1% chance to see a shiny i want a gurantee that i can catch it especially if it is a rare pokemon that is a shiny because a shiny zubat or geodude are easy to find, but a shiny growlith is almost impossible to find
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@Dark All i can say is this, you seem to be missing the point that Temproux is making, all he wants is pokeballs that capture shinys so you don't have to constantly watch the game, so if that's too easy for people make the price of them higher like 100,000 pke, ive got more than that since i can't spend it on anything usefull, but let me ask you this Dark, do you actually enjoy sitting there endlessly watching your screen to get a shiny? Because if you do, then that is pretty sad to be honest
Hahaha nice joke, and no I'm not playing this game whole day and as i said already i have couple of shiny pkm and as for me? that enough if i catch by pure luck one or two more it would be great but i don't need them i have all pkm that are catchable in both versions and as for me that enough i don't need to have each type of pkm shiny (thats not the point here) besides i also said that i will not agree with this idea but also I will not make any more comments thats why i will let other people decide if it is good or not
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I'm netrual...
Don't really care about it maybe it's a great idea for some people but I don't care of it and if it will work it will cost a lot of money and it can catch you pokemon that you don't need...
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especially with the low chance of catching pokemon and since there isnt enough stuff in the shop i really would like this
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I think of it as an alternative way of shiny hunting.

Normal way : you keep looking and catch shinies for free. Most of them are useless and I know that some of you don't even care to catch the most common one like the ones that are given away with unlimited mystery gift codes. In the end you have what you wanted and still have a mass of money for when it will be usefull.

Timerball : at 50k, it takes about 15 runs on MM2 to get the money for a single ball. Sure now people have load of money but at 50k per ball, it goes down pretty quick. Especially when you think of how many you will waste on useless shinies before you get one that is more rare. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that if you catch a shiny in VF2, it has one 1/100 chance to be a picachu. I'm a massive afk grinder and I don't even think I would use it unless the pokemon I want is really common in his level.
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