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Syria obsession
Topic Started: 24 Nov 2015, 09:08 AM (1,210 Views)
SuffolkRoyal
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It seems Cameron is determined to drag us into the pointless bombing campaign in Syria. Has he learnt nothing from the chaos that has been left behind after our previous efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan?

It will be interesting to see what he comes up with to try and convince his opponents in parliament to approve his plan.
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On a somewhat related note - it appears the Turks have shot down a Russian warplane...

What we know so far:

  • The Russian defence ministry has confirmed that its Su-24 fighter jet was shot down near Syria's border with Turkey.
  • Turkey says the plane violated its airspace, but Russia denies this.
  • Russia has said the plane was shot down from the ground, while Turkey says its fighter planes downed the plane.
  • Turkey says they gave 10 warnings before shooting down the plane.
  • Russia has confirmed that the two pilots ejected themselves, but their whereabouts and fate are not yet known.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-34908469
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I really don't know what the Turkish position is regarding ISIS. Its almost as if they turn a blind eye to them.
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SuffolkRoyal
24 Nov 2015, 11:49 AM
I really don't know what the Turkish position is regarding ISIS. Its almost as if they turn a blind eye to them.
Turkey are fighting the Kurds and Daesh (ISIS) are fighting the Kurds...
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Clyde1998
24 Nov 2015, 12:02 PM
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24 Nov 2015, 11:49 AM
I really don't know what the Turkish position is regarding ISIS. Its almost as if they turn a blind eye to them.
Turkey are fighting the Kurds and Daesh (ISIS) are fighting the Kurds...
and the Turks are supposedly fighting Daesh (ISIS). Like a deadly game of chess with three players ...
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Clyde1998
24 Nov 2015, 12:02 PM
SuffolkRoyal
24 Nov 2015, 11:49 AM
I really don't know what the Turkish position is regarding ISIS. Its almost as if they turn a blind eye to them.
Turkey are fighting the Kurds and Daesh (ISIS) are fighting the Kurds...
So Turkey are allied with ISIS then?

I know that sounds very simplistic, but if the proverbial brown stuff does hit the fan with the war on ISIS, Turkey are going to have to decide where they stand, regardless of whether they're fighting the Kurds or not.
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Putin: "[It's] a stab in the back by the accomplices of terrorists"
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So let me see if I've got this right?

Russia, USA and several EU countries are fighting ISIS. Turkey also claims to be fighting ISIS. ISIS are fighting the Kurds around the Syria/Turkey border and Turkey are also fighting the Kurds.

Turkey shoots down a Russian fighter, which is bombing ISIS, but has strayed into Turkeys air space.

So who's side is Turkey on???????? :'(
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24 Nov 2015, 03:31 PM
So who's side is Turkey on???????? :'(
Their own; they and the Russians are both claiming to be against Daesh/ISIS/IS/whatever but are somewhat doing Their Own Things (Turkey attacking the Kurds at times, Russia attacking anyone who is against Assad) in this mess.
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The only thing Turkey is any good for is carving on the Christmas dinner table :D :D
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