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Rolf Harris
Topic Started: 21 Apr 2013, 07:03 AM (4,999 Views)
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The lawyers of Rolf threatened the press under the Leveson Report in order they did not print the story.Some of us knew months ago,and of a person is actually arrested why is it not in the public interest?This report could now be used on a number of things and celebrities could get up to things we may never know.As it happens I hope Rolf is innocent,he has been a good entertainer over the years.I put this in local issues because Rolf lives in Bray.

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14 Jan 2014, 05:38 PM
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14 Jan 2014, 05:32 PM
I liked Harris but I can't see how he is innocent. The Police,I gather,found stuff with children on his pc or something of the sort so its difficult to see how he can be innocent of certain charges.
So sad for the children involved.
Dead right TSB, we might have Sexy Women threads and all that, but we're talking of grown-ups, our equals, who make their own decisions. To put kids through this sort of stuff is the lowest of the low ...
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14 Jan 2014, 05:51 PM
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14 Jan 2014, 05:38 PM
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14 Jan 2014, 05:32 PM
I liked Harris but I can't see how he is innocent. The Police,I gather,found stuff with children on his pc or something of the sort so its difficult to see how he can be innocent of certain charges.
So sad for the children involved.
Dead right TSB, we might have Sexy Women threads and all that, but we're talking of grown-ups, our equals, who make their own decisions. To put kids through this sort of stuff is the lowest of the low ...
Apart from that there are millions of children poorly nourished in this country due to austerity cuts,the way we treat children is disgusting,I bang on about this thread after thread but only get apathy.What these dirty old men has done is appalling,what the government is doing to them comes a close second.These are vunerable children,the ones most likely to be preyed upon.

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14 Jan 2014, 05:38 PM
Zip
14 Jan 2014, 05:32 PM
I liked Harris but I can't see how he is innocent. The Police,I gather,found stuff with children on his pc or something of the sort so its difficult to see how he can be innocent of certain charges.
So sad for the children involved.
At least they will get justice Steve. Unlike Savile's victims. Here's the rub though. DLT is up on various sexual offence charges. In the 70's plenty of men would tap a girl(as in adult female) on the bum. Times have changed and what was once seen as the norm is now offensive.
I realise DLT did more than that like putting his hand up a girls skirt but in the 70's that was not seen in the same serious light as now.
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Rolf Harris pleads not guilty to 12 indecent assault charges

Veteran TV presenter Rolf Harris has pleaded not guilty to 12 indecent assault charges.

The 83-year-old of Bray, Berkshire, is accused of assaulting four girls between 1968 and 1986.

Mr Harris was remanded on bail at London's Southwark Crown Court and his trial was set for 30 April.

The Australian artist, musician and television presenter has yet to be arraigned on four counts of making an indecent image of a child.

He arrived earlier for the hearing with his wife Alwen and daughter Bindi.

Six of the indecent assault counts relate to a girl aged 15 between April 1980 and April 1981, and one relates to the same alleged victim when she was aged 19 between January 1984 and January 1985.

Three of the alleged indecent assaults relate to a 14-year-old girl in May 1986.

The other two charges relate to the alleged indecent assault on a girl aged seven or eight between January 1968 and January 1970, and a girl aged 14 between January 1975 and January 1976.

Mr Harris was released on bail on the conditions that he does not contact prosecution witnesses, lives at his home address and does not spend time with anyone under the age of 18 without being accompanied by someone over 21.
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All three headlining the papers as if they are guilty,cant be right.

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15 Jan 2014, 05:38 PM
All three headlining the papers as if they are guilty,cant be right.
Sensationalist stories in papers are par for the course unfortunately. I've always maintained that people shouldn't be named until they get to court. Now they're at court, they're fair game to the press.
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Have to say that from the little I've read about DLT's first couple of days in court, he just sounds like an opportunist dirty old man rather than some sort of sexual deviant.
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15 Jan 2014, 09:15 PM
Have to say that from the little I've read about DLT's first couple of days in court, he just sounds like an opportunist dirty old man rather than some sort of sexual deviant.
Yep thats how I see it.
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What I will say is that when I first met the 1st Mr bmb, who was a bit older than me, I lied my head off and told him I was 17 not the 14 that I was. Came as a bit of a shock to him when we got married 2 years later that I was actually turning 16 that day not 19 as he thought. Girls of that age look older, especially in the right clothes & make up. Younger than that is a whole different matter but I am always a bit uncomfortable with the paedo tag when it's girls of the 14-16 age group because I know my friends and I lied about our ages all the time to get into nightclubs etc. I've not been following the case because I don't want to. IF he is found guilty then I will read it but I'd prefer to taint my memory of him with a proven fact rather than unproven allegations. Age 7 or 8 is sick beyond belief and no excuses but I can have some sympathy in relation to those around 14-16 where a man maybe totally oblivious to their real age because she has lied her butt off. Knowing their true age would be different of course.
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15 Jan 2014, 11:08 PM
What I will say is that when I first met the 1st Mr bmb, who was a bit older than me, I lied my head off and told him I was 17 not the 14 that I was. Came as a bit of a shock to him when we got married 2 years later that I was actually turning 16 that day not 19 as he thought. Girls of that age look older, especially in the right clothes & make up. Younger than that is a whole different matter but I am always a bit uncomfortable with the paedo tag when it's girls of the 14-16 age group because I know my friends and I lied about our ages all the time to get into nightclubs etc. I've not been following the case because I don't want to. IF he is found guilty then I will read it but I'd prefer to taint my memory of him with a proven fact rather than unproven allegations. Age 7 or 8 is sick beyond belief and no excuses but I can have some sympathy in relation to those around 14-16 where a man maybe totally oblivious to their real age because she has lied her butt off. Knowing their true age would be different of course.
Travis is up on thirteen counts of indecent assault and one of sexual assault.

The woman giving evidence today was 26 at the time he, allegedly, assaulted her. Whether any of the others were young girls at the time remains to be seen, but the charges against Rolf Harris and William Roach seem to be far more serious and do relate to young girls.

And, of course you are right, 13, 14 and 15 year old girls can look much older when they wear certain clothes and make up. But all the accused were in high profile positions and able to take advantage of their fame.

Only time will tell whether they are guilty or innocent, but whatever the outcome, their reputations will be int tatters.
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