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| secretk | Feb 8 2012, 07:00 PM Post #61 |
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Yeah, he has experience, but I think that it is also about his approach and clearly training and of course talent. My other favorite actor is not someone famous, because he's really picky person and doesn't do anything Hollywood hit, but he can play these little nuances too. The curiosity is that both of them had been attending acting classes in London. I actually liked the most the undercover scenes - for example the season 1 finale. The moment he picks up the phone he changes his attitude and even his voice. Also in the Sting operation - the way he talked about these cars, someone would believe that he's actually car seller. And that's why it was so believable the way Dov admired Sam. |
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| LAwoman | Feb 8 2012, 07:16 PM Post #62 |
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Hmm, those were the two times I thought Ben maybe overacted just a tad. I like his more subtle scenes better. |
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| vixenali | Feb 8 2012, 11:40 PM Post #63 |
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Ben is very, very good in most of his roles. He's played a variety of characters. I was watching The 6th Day today (Schwarzenegger movie from 2000--btw it sucked really bad). Ben had a very minor role, but he was so different in that--but his character still fascinated me--comparing him to Sam or other characters he's played. He is a method actor, so he gets into the roles and into the little things that make these characters more "real". Method actors also pull their own real life experiences into their roles. He also was on Queer as Folk and was very good in that role as a love-obsessed gay man. He has a very expressive face and also uses his voice so well in his roles. I don't see him being type-cast at all because of his range. |
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| secretk | Feb 9 2012, 03:26 AM Post #64 |
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LAwoman maybe I'm biased, because I'm just a fan of Undercover stories. I even watched whole shows dedicated to undercover cops. I also like a lot more Sam as undercover cop than as a training officer. I mean I know that this way he has scenes with Andy and so on, but my favorite Sam moments are in the Pilot, the Season 1 finale and the last two episodes of Season 2. Although to ask some woman who he knows to see him during undercover mission is a crappy police work, crappier when she is a cop and accepts his offer. So I guess my favorite Sam moments are in the Pilot starting with that's a crappy lock. I just want him to be like that and not so sensitive. vixenali I guess you're right. I haven't seen the things you mentioned, because they are not my type of movies. I just watch different things. From what I've seen method actors love their job and don't see this as some sort of work that pays the bills. They choose roles that can expand their range and can satisfy them emotionally. |
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| LAwoman | Feb 9 2012, 05:06 AM Post #65 |
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Yeah, I do like the UC attitude too. It's just those two scenes where Ben is playing a character playing another character where I thought he went a little over the top, acting wise. Someone even tweeted "Whoa, you're not Pacino" when he was mimicking the drug dealer's weird accent. Granted, it was a fan who really doesn't like Sam anyway, but I didn't totally disagree. |
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| kbo | Feb 9 2012, 06:24 PM Post #66 |
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Well, in the Sting scene he's playing a cop character that is playing a dealer character, so it may be deliberate... ment to be a bit overacted... A cop is not an actor, right? Definitely not a kickass one (like Ben) :)) |
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| LAwoman | Feb 9 2012, 06:29 PM Post #67 |
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True. I think Ben sees Sam as someone who loves hamming it up a bit playing different roles. Like there's a secret frustrated actor in there somewhere...but he really should stick to his day job cuz he's a great cop, but uneven actor. Back to Hawley's point though. I totally agree that where Ben's experience shines through is how he doesn't stand stiff and blank when another character is delivering lines. Then bandage thing was a great example. That's something Travis needs to work on and doesn't have down yet. |
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| sillygyrl8 | Feb 9 2012, 08:30 PM Post #68 |
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there's just so much information out there - even about us and not just the people in the public eye, like actors etc. He and his fellow actors on RB are doing a great job in trying to their private stuff private - esp Matt, Eric and all the others with families and kids (future Bass family too!). I agree with LA and Hawley, Ben is great at filling out the 'blank' moments, with nonverbal stuff :) |
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| secretk | Feb 10 2012, 05:03 AM Post #69 |
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Well, not to sound offensive, but that's the difference between good and great actors. Good actors receive and read their script, follow the director's instructions and play the role they are supposed to. Great actors don't need the camera to be focused on them, so that we can see them. They have charisma and presence that capture the camera. That's typical for actors with theater experience. In theater there is no camera to follow them around, they are on stage with the other actors. There is no music to play in the background in the silent scenes. If they want the audience to see them, they have to know how to play the role. And when those actors have to play on screen, they just have the confidence to do the same, because they have the experience. |
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| Hawley | Feb 10 2012, 04:17 PM Post #70 |
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@secretk, you make a really great point about theatre (I'm Canadian, so spelling it the Brit way! )! While I'm sure other RB actors have had theatre training/experience, we know that Ben has a lot -- from interviews, especially during the Forever Knight period (interviews, I mean). That helps explain his 'method' (acting), plus the 'gaps' in his resume (of course, IMDB only lists film/tv work). If you read between the lines on IMDB, unless he spent periods of time unemployed (like most struggling actors), other times he was on stage -- I'd love to read more about his theatre work, beyond Stratford (Canada), Vancouver, Montreal & Charlottetown Festival! He is an enigma, that way, which is one of the (many many many) reasons we all love him as "Sam"!
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| secretk | Feb 10 2012, 04:50 PM Post #71 |
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Hawley I checked Ben's bio, so I know that he has theater experience (sorry for the American version, my spell checker seems to accept only this version of the word). It helps also that I enjoy the method actors a lot more than the famous Hollywood type ones, so most of the actors in my list are that kind of actors and they all have such experience. And I've also read interviews with directors who like to work with method actors, so a lot of people share my thoughts on this subject. When I was a kid I didn't appreciate such things, I liked the popular actors which are known by everyone. With the years however I learned that if you look closely enough you can notice a lot of small things and nuances. My favorite actor plays in a movie that has only him on screen for the first 35 minutes and he doesn't even talk, he just mumbles from time to time. Now obviously to do that, you have to have a lot of charisma and presence. Ben has this, which makes his character a lot more interesting. Even if he plays unlikeable character (which is not the case here), we still can enjoy his performance. |
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| LAwoman | Feb 10 2012, 05:12 PM Post #72 |
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Yeah, what got me hooked on the show right away was what a great actor Ben was. I just couldn't believe he could be that talented, and yet I'd never set eyes on him before, that I remembered anyway. So I started trawling IMDB for more info and checking out what people were saying about the show on twitter, and just got really into it, as opposed to thinking of it as the summer guilty pleasure I was expecting the show to be. |
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| whatsinaname | Mar 12 2012, 08:46 PM Post #73 |
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I couldn't agree more with you all. Secretk, reading your comments was like reading my thoughts about Ben. I live in India and even though Bollywood is big money but i think the cimnema is focussed on jewellery, clothing, and the glamour. the acting side of it, the story etc, i feel its worse than s**t. Hollywood movies were more like an experience (not all of course) I love Dead Man walking and i feel, the movie really steals you, takes you into another world, lets you experience teh world from a convicts perspective and brings you back to reality. Because of indian cinema i never had respect for teh movies, acting or theatre (sorry for my ignorance, i have never been to a theatre performance, i guess its just where I am). Ben Bass, has really made me see acting in a different light. I respect him for that. for his great work, for doing justice to the character. To be honest i noticed in Rookie Blue that all characters even the ones (extras, they are called here, apologies if it sounds offensive) that are not playing ay lead roles, who are just there in the background, always seem to be doigng something taht looks quite convincingly real. For the talent, the quality , i Love Rookie Blue and of course for Ben Bass. |
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| whatsinaname | Mar 12 2012, 09:04 PM Post #74 |
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i was in tears when i looked up Ben Bass and i did not see much work that he has had, like small roles and very few. I was so sad thinking that all these years he has been a struggling actor and not had much success. he deserves so much more. Please tell me, if someone knows for sure, what he has been up to all these years. Does anyone know anything about his personal life? I don't want to gossip, i just want to know him better. Thing, is i never go all crazy about men. however, good he looks. and the one man i have totally fallen in love with, i can't find much info about him. Ben, God i can keep staring at his eyes all day (in a picture of course). may be its a past life connection. |
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| Nathy | Mar 12 2012, 09:12 PM Post #75 |
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I don't think any of us knows much more than what's on the internet unfortunately. I agree with you that his works deserve more recognition (I'm assuming he was as great in other projects as he is in Rookie Blue) |
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| Hawley | Mar 12 2012, 10:17 PM Post #76 |
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@whatsinaname, glad you re-activated this topic! If you haven't seen it before, you might enjoy this web page created during BB's 'younger' years (1995-96) when he was in "Forever Knight" - gives you a few insights on what he was doing & how he was viewed back then (& alot of it still applies!): http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/jdvachon/100.html Since imdb only covers tv/film, I've always believed that his resume between those parts was filled in with more theatrical performances than is generally known. Plus, he's probably done many pilots that weren't picked up: for example "Clean", in 2008, with David Wellington directing. |
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| SAFan23 | Mar 12 2012, 10:46 PM Post #77 |
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I do wonder if those are true though... I think I've seen that before and wondered if some were just made up. (Some are OBVIOUSLY made up and others... well, you have to wonder LOL) |
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| zg4ever | May 6 2012, 06:37 PM Post #78 |
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is this true? especially number 12? (Part 1) |
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| Fantesstic | May 18 2012, 02:56 PM Post #79 |
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Honestly, I think most of it is bullshit.
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| vixenali | May 18 2012, 03:43 PM Post #80 |
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You know, Ben did write in Croatian during the RBparty at one point....so maybe there is some truth to #12. But yeah, some of those "facts" are probably a bunch of loaded crap. |
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)! While I'm sure other RB actors have had theatre training/experience, we know that Ben has a lot -- from interviews, especially during the Forever Knight period (interviews, I mean). That helps explain his 'method' (acting), plus the 'gaps' in his resume (of course, IMDB only lists film/tv work). If you read between the lines on IMDB, unless he spent periods of time unemployed (like most struggling actors), other times he was on stage -- I'd love to read more about his theatre work, beyond Stratford (Canada), Vancouver, Montreal & Charlottetown Festival! He is an enigma, that way, which is one of the (many many many) reasons we all love him as "Sam"!



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