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Nov 24 2010, 12:10 AM
Do we know how many episodes Sam's new love interest will be in? I can't believe they are focusing more on Luke and Andy, its the opposite of what people want...
I think they throw a bone or two for us - McSwarek people. Longing glances, conversations with hints, meaningful sigh, etc.
It's just doesn't lead anywhere.
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Nov 24 2010, 06:25 AM
UltimateR
Nov 24 2010, 12:10 AM
Do we know how many episodes Sam's new love interest will be in? I can't believe they are focusing more on Luke and Andy, its the opposite of what people want...
I think they throw a bone or two for us - McSwarek people. Longing glances, conversations with hints, meaningful sigh, etc.
It's just doesn't lead anywhere.
That kept us interested last season I don't think it will keep a lot of people interested this time...I love this show but I tend to lose interest fast when they drag the lead pair. Now if Sam gets love interest(that we will all love hopefully) and Andy stays with Luke or whoever I won't mind...But if they make it look like Sam is hang up on her I won't like it very much....I wish they would focus more on Sam's background and his work..enough about McNally and her problems.
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Nov 24 2010, 04:32 PM
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Nov 24 2010, 06:25 AM
UltimateR
Nov 24 2010, 12:10 AM
Do we know how many episodes Sam's new love interest will be in? I can't believe they are focusing more on Luke and Andy, its the opposite of what people want...
I think they throw a bone or two for us - McSwarek people. Longing glances, conversations with hints, meaningful sigh, etc.
It's just doesn't lead anywhere.
That kept us interested last season I don't think it will keep a lot of people interested this time...I love this show but I tend to lose interest fast when they drag the lead pair. Now if Sam gets love interest(that we will all love hopefully) and Andy stays with Luke or whoever I won't mind...But if they make it look like Sam is hang up on her I won't like it very much....I wish they would focus more on Sam's background and his work..enough about McNally and her problems.
While I happen to agree with you, the show is called Rookie Blue and is supposed to be about the rookies, not the training officers. Andy is the main rookie focus so whether you like her problems or not, we are going to be seeing a lot of it.
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Nov 24 2010, 05:01 PM
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Nov 24 2010, 04:32 PM
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Nov 24 2010, 06:25 AM
UltimateR
Nov 24 2010, 12:10 AM
Do we know how many episodes Sam's new love interest will be in? I can't believe they are focusing more on Luke and Andy, its the opposite of what people want...
I think they throw a bone or two for us - McSwarek people. Longing glances, conversations with hints, meaningful sigh, etc.
It's just doesn't lead anywhere.
That kept us interested last season I don't think it will keep a lot of people interested this time...I love this show but I tend to lose interest fast when they drag the lead pair. Now if Sam gets love interest(that we will all love hopefully) and Andy stays with Luke or whoever I won't mind...But if they make it look like Sam is hang up on her I won't like it very much....I wish they would focus more on Sam's background and his work..enough about McNally and her problems.
While I happen to agree with you, the show is called Rookie Blue and is supposed to be about the rookies, not the training officers. Andy is the main rookie focus so whether you like her problems or not, we are going to be seeing a lot of it.
I understand that but why does her problems have to do with Sam..I don't mind her screw ups and relationship problems but I would rather Sam was not involved with it....Am interested in his character as much as I love McSwarek, Sam Swarek is the main reason why am watching this show! I was hooked on the show after episode 2 because of Sam and Anton Hill situation but after that episode everything went down hill, all Sam was involved in was Luke and Andy's relationship, apart from the two interrogation he did I was really disappointed.


I get that this show is about the Rookies but they can also make space for TO's especially one thats pulling in most of the audience....Take GA for example it was all about the Interns first season and second season was all about Meredith and Derek because thats what the Audience were most interested.
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Nov 24 2010, 04:32 PM
That kept us interested last season I don't think it will keep a lot of people interested this time...I love this show but I tend to lose interest fast when they drag the lead pair. Now if Sam gets love interest(that we will all love hopefully) and Andy stays with Luke or whoever I won't mind...But if they make it look like Sam is hang up on her I won't like it very much....I wish they would focus more on Sam's background and his work..enough about McNally and her problems.
The thing is that now authors in most cases used cliche, unfortunately.
"If viewers like main couple - in any case don't let them get together, no matter how stupid obstacles look."
They don't even try to come up with real problems. Most of the time it's WTF?!
And then they very surprised when in response to interview with teasing spoilers get comments from audience - we doesn't care anymore!
They are like - hey, people, you are used so love them in first season! so what happened?

I understand that Andy's main character and focus will be on what she was doing, whom she was doing and all that. But like heroine she made very little progress last season. And if they continue in this course, it will have more negative impact on show than her screwed up love life.

And it's real shame if they couldn't think of anything better for Sam than a third wheel with unrequited love in Andy and Luke relationship.
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Nov 24 2010, 06:06 PM
And it's real shame if they couldn't think of anything better for Sam than a third wheel with unrequited love in Andy and Luke relationship.
Exactly I don't want to judge the show YET I don't know how they will go about it, but they would be really stupid if they can't think of anything better to do with Sam's character...Tassie is fully aware of what the fans want she seen their reaction on twitter and FB lets hope she doesn't make the same mistake.
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Nov 24 2010, 06:56 PM
Tassie is fully aware of what the fans want she seen their reaction on twitter and FB lets hope she doesn't make the same mistake.
This may mean nothing. Very often authors know exactly what infuriates viewers, but do just that.
At times I'm wondering, if there some unofficial competition - who pissed off fans more? :D

With all respect to Tassie - I don't want to jump to conclusions, but... All that we already know about new season doesn't sound particularly promising in romantic relationships department.
Hopefully, I'm sorely mistaken.
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Nov 24 2010, 07:12 PM
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Nov 24 2010, 06:56 PM
Tassie is fully aware of what the fans want she seen their reaction on twitter and FB lets hope she doesn't make the same mistake.
This may mean nothing. Very often authors know exactly what infuriates viewers, but do just that.
At times I'm wondering, if there some unofficial competition - who pissed off fans more? :D

With all respect to Tassie - I don't want to jump to conclusions, but... All that we already know about new season doesn't sound particularly promising in romantic relationships department.
Hopefully, I'm sorely mistaken.
Could be, thats what the writers of Castle and Bones are doing...But why do something other shows are already doing? Don't they want to be different...they are already getting accused of being GA in Uniforms.

Am still not giving up hope I know Tassie Loves Ben and so do the audience, if he has good storyline each episode I will overlook the Andy/Luke drama
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Could be, thats what the writers of Castle and Bones are doing...

That's exactly what I mean.

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Am still not giving up hope I know Tassie Loves Ben and so do the audience, if he has good storyline each episode I will overlook the Andy/Luke drama

This can be tough cookie. There is no doubt that Ben/Sam caused enormous interest of audience, perhaps even more than expected by authors. But in first season Sam was TO of main character and potential love interest. And now he's just her co-worker, and place of her boyfriend is firmly occupied by Luke. So... They just don't have so much screen time.
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Nov 24 2010, 07:24 PM
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Could be, thats what the writers of Castle and Bones are doing...

That's exactly what I mean.

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Am still not giving up hope I know Tassie Loves Ben and so do the audience, if he has good storyline each episode I will overlook the Andy/Luke drama

This can be tough cookie. There is no doubt that Ben/Sam caused enormous interest of audience, perhaps even more than expected by authors. But in first season Sam was TO of main character and potential love interest. And now he's just her co-worker, and place of her boyfriend is firmly occupied by Luke. So... They just don't have so much screen time.
But he will be her partner wouldn't he? the writers will use Sam somehow, it wouldn't make sense for them to cut his screen time when he is the most popular character on the show! thats like chasing your own audience way it would be stupid move
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Nov 24 2010, 07:44 PM
But he will be her partner wouldn't he? the writers will use Sam somehow, it wouldn't make sense for them to cut his screen time when he is the most popular character on the show! thats like chasing your own audience way it would be stupid move
Sometimes, I guess. But as far as I can tell by photos from the set, Andy is very often will be paired with Chris and other rookies. And Sam at least once will be working with Tracie and Noel. So they are definitely not exclusive.
Of course it's sad that very popular character is not the center of story that authors want to tell. Shit happens. :uhh:
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Nov 24 2010, 07:12 PM
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Nov 24 2010, 06:56 PM
Tassie is fully aware of what the fans want she seen their reaction on twitter and FB lets hope she doesn't make the same mistake.
This may mean nothing. Very often authors know exactly what infuriates viewers, but do just that.
At times I'm wondering, if there some unofficial competition - who pissed off fans more? :D

With all respect to Tassie - I don't want to jump to conclusions, but... All that we already know about new season doesn't sound particularly promising in romantic relationships department.
Hopefully, I'm sorely mistaken.
I agree that sometimes writers don't end up pleasing the fans. Yes we know that the new season doesn't sound promising for Sam/Andy but remember what Tassie said in an interview posted a while ago:

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Andy: Birds are singing… until they meet a snake in the grass. Then all bets are off.


In my opinion, the writers really just need to break Andy and Luke up. Even if they end the season with Andy single, I will be a little annoyed but it will make sense to me. If they end season 2 with Andy and Luke still together, I think they will lose a lot of fans.
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Nov 24 2010, 08:29 PM
I agree that sometimes writers don't end up pleasing the fans. Yes we know that the new season doesn't sound promising for Sam/Andy but remember what Tassie said in an interview posted a while ago:

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Andy: Birds are singing… until they meet a snake in the grass. Then all bets are off.

And what?
The simplest - and thus the most likely - an interpretation of these words: Andy lives with Luke and super happy, then enter "a snake" and Andy fights for Luke.
Yeah, that's exactly what I wanted to see.

Well, I had little hope that Andy's attitude towards Sam starts slowly changing. But in light of fact that Andy will be busy with Luke/Jo drama, and Sam eventually had enough and go after another woman - my hopes are useless.
Unless happens absolutely fantastic turn of events, and Jo will go for Sam, but he turn her down.
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I agree that sometimes writers don't end up pleasing the fans. Yes we know that the new season doesn't sound promising for Sam/Andy but remember what Tassie said in an interview posted a while ago:

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Andy: Birds are singing… until they meet a snake in the grass. Then all bets are off.

And what?
The simplest - and thus the most likely - an interpretation of these words: Andy lives with Luke and super happy, then enter "a snake" and Andy fights for Luke.
Yeah, that's exactly what I wanted to see.

Well, I had little hope that Andy's attitude towards Sam starts slowly changing. But in light of fact that Andy will be busy with Luke/Jo drama, and Sam eventually had enough and go after another woman - my hopes are useless.
Unless happens absolutely fantastic turn of events, and Jo will go for Sam, but he turn her down.
Well, I was kind of hoping that the "all bets are off" signal the fact that Jo came in, stirred trouble and then left but Luke and Andy need to hash things out and it doesn't go smoothly and they end up breaking up.

My hope is that giving Sam a new love interest just makes Andy jealous, adding more fuel to the fire of Andy and Luke arguing.

Maybe it is wishful thinking but I need to hold on to some sort of hope that they will break Luke and Andy up...and possibly make Andy fight for Sam.
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Nov 24 2010, 10:01 PM
Maybe it is wishful thinking but I need to hold on to some sort of hope that they will break Luke and Andy up...and possibly make Andy fight for Sam.
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I dont want to say this but the writing for this show was really horrible after episode 10. I really like this show, but if they drag on andy and luke for that long, for 6 episodes, I will probably not watch those espisodes, maybe come back episode 7 or not at all. I can't imagine luke and andy screentime getting any more boring.
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I think the writing got bad in the last few episodes especially in the finale not only the Romance aspect of the show, but just everything didn't seem to make sense...This show has great potential hope the writers improve next season
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Nov 25 2010, 10:53 PM
I think the writing got bad in the last few episodes especially in the finale not only the Romance aspect of the show, but just everything didn't seem to make sense...This show has great potential hope the writers improve next season
In my opinion, not as bad as ... mixed. I know a thing or two about rules of constructing a dramatic narrative. And from their point of view latest eps doesn't have lot of sense.
If you examine episodes 12 and 13, impression would be that they were not entirely successfuly swapped.
I get that they didn't know whether first season will be also last, so they don't had a lot of room to maneuver with creation cliffhanger for next season. But still... not such brilliant work as episodes in early and mid-season. Rather schematic, very simplistic, which is weakly coupled with all that was established by previous events. Using popular Russian expression - "suddenly!"
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The funny thing is that although I thought the later episodes were of lesser quality, I liked how episode 12 was done. I found that showing the end of the day and going back through the day was a new twist.
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Nov 25 2010, 10:23 PM
I dont want to say this but the writing for this show was really horrible after episode 10. I really like this show, but if they drag on andy and luke for that long, for 6 episodes, I will probably not watch those espisodes, maybe come back episode 7 or not at all. I can't imagine luke and andy screentime getting any more boring.
I absolutely agree with this the writing on this show is down right horrible sometimes if it not for the fact that they have a great group of talented actors particularly the veterans this show would have scrapped.Their plot lines are predictable every episode ends neat and tidy all's well that ends well isn't this a police drama?I love Ben and the rest of the cast but I second the notion that I may bypass episodes 1-6 if the Luke/Andy drama continues To me Missy and Eric are good actors but they lack believability as a couple I'm not saying it cause I like Ben there just isn't a spark , I blame the writers for failing to develop a proper triangle.My one wish since the day Season 1 ended is that Tassie and Co. did seriously take fan feedback to heart especially ending this painful Landy relationship. There is nothing worse than a bunch of egotistical writers that are hell bent on doing things their way regardless of audience opinion i mean who's keeping the show on the air and you employed. It been a while since I vented I needed to do this.
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