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I'm okay with the Andy crying stories, only because we've seen her cry over Sam on two specific instances that I can think of.

But would Andy cry while on the job? Doubtful. So I could see how that could bug.

Personally I hate poorly written stories. I can usually tell within the first paragraph if I'm going to enjoy reading a story. It also drives me insane when I see inaccuracies about Canada and/or Toronto. It shouldn't, because clearly not everyone lives here or knows what life is like, but I feel like the author should at least try to seek out factual details about Canada/Toronto rather than replacing it with what they know.

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Oct 12 2012, 09:43 PM
I'm not a fan of generic endearments, period. But honey and sweetheart I can live with. (sweetie I actually use myself, but only with other girls, not with boyfriends) Babe I hate.
Maybe he could call her "hun"? Sam would never call Andy, Babe! Right??!

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Oct 12 2012, 09:36 PM
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Oct 12 2012, 09:11 PM
@photogfan - I agree about the curse words in particular.

I actually like to have Sam and Andy swear a little, just because some of the situations they find themselves in, I think *I* would be dropping an f-bomb. But in every day conversation, I just don't really see it with them. Also, it tends to detract from the plot IMO.
Yes, when the situation would benefit from it, but in their every day speech, no.

Also, has Sam ever really called Andy "sweetheart" as an endearing term in the show? Just wondering.
to my knowledge it was only when he said it facetiously in ep. 2; so no.

But I :wub: it; it's definitely my preferred term of endearment from Sam to Andy because I seriously cannot see him calling her babe... :puke:

Which reminds me that when that is used in fics it bothers me quite a bit, mainly anything OOC bugs me because I spend so much time watching RB and knowing the characters so when they aren't themselves it feels wrong. :dunno: Does that make sense?

...Wow this is a really dangerous thread, it probably seems like I'm really picky and mean. :haha:
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Oct 12 2012, 09:47 PM
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Oct 12 2012, 09:36 PM
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Oct 12 2012, 09:11 PM
@photogfan - I agree about the curse words in particular.

I actually like to have Sam and Andy swear a little, just because some of the situations they find themselves in, I think *I* would be dropping an f-bomb. But in every day conversation, I just don't really see it with them. Also, it tends to detract from the plot IMO.
Yes, when the situation would benefit from it, but in their every day speech, no.

Also, has Sam ever really called Andy "sweetheart" as an endearing term in the show? Just wondering.
to my knowledge it was only when he said it facetiously in ep. 2

But I :wub: it; it's definitely my preferred term of endearment from Sam to Andy because I seriously cannot see him calling her babe... :puke:

Which reminds me that when that is used in fics it bothers me quite a bit, mainly anything OOC bugs me because I spend so much time watching RB and knowing the characters so when they aren't themselves it feels wrong. :dunno: Does that make sense?

...Wow this is a really dangerous thread, it probably seems like I'm really picky and mean. :haha:
If you are, then we all are *L*

But really, everyone should write what they want. The only way to build and improve upon a skill is to practice.
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Oct 12 2012, 09:43 PM
I'm not a fan of generic endearments, period. But honey and sweetheart I can live with. (sweetie I actually use myself, but only with other girls, not with boyfriends) Babe I hate.
Maybe he could call her "hun"? Sam would never call Andy, Babe! Right??!

The best term of endearment I've ever heard was "love." As in "Love, come here. Give me a hug." I freaking swooned every time (not that it was ever said to me, but... lol)

As someone who's watched her share of TV shows where the leads call each other by their last names (hello, X-Files), I feel like Sam's term of endearment is "McNally." Obviously not when they're on the job, but when they're off the job, to me that's him using a pet name for her. I can never picture Sam using the conventional babe, honey/hun, sweetheart, etc.
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This is site is like crack isn't it? I should seriously unregister because I can see myself spending an inapropriate amount of time on here and I have a LIFE, you know?

Anyway, I loathe fics that have Andy getting hurt constantly because, come on, they don't live in a war zone. Toronto at it's worst is still a Canadian city with strict gun control laws and a better than average respect for police. Also, she was trained wasn't she? By the best. :)

Also, there have been a spate of stories recently where Sam or Andy are down right nasty to each other. Sam has yelled at her exactly twice (justifiably) and Andy can be awfully bratty, but never so bad that I've wanted to smack her really, really hard. I mean, OOC is one thing but wtf? Why do people even want to follow a show when they seem to hate the characters? I've recently started reading reviews before I read the fics to get a general idea of what I'm getting into.

I admit to being pretty picky, but good characterization is my only real need. I have read a couple of Sam/OC that I adore and I don't hate the idea of Andy/OC even though I don't read them.



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Oct 12 2012, 09:50 PM
But really, everyone should write what they want. The only way to build and improve upon a skill is to practice.
Yes, it's the only way to improve.
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Yes!! I love the way he just uses her name, both actually depending how he says it, as an endearment. I much prefer that to generic pet names.

ETA: This was replying to magie's post about Sam and pet names. If I'd realized there was already so many replies in between, I would have quoted her. But I do agree about writing what you want as well. No one's style is going to be everyone's cup of tea. (well maybe Margie, tikvarn, and a few others are pretty much a hit with most of the fan base, but those are exceptions)
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Oct 12 2012, 09:52 PM
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Oct 12 2012, 09:46 PM
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Oct 12 2012, 09:43 PM
I'm not a fan of generic endearments, period. But honey and sweetheart I can live with. (sweetie I actually use myself, but only with other girls, not with boyfriends) Babe I hate.
Maybe he could call her "hun"? Sam would never call Andy, Babe! Right??!

The best term of endearment I've ever heard was "love." As in "Love, come here. Give me a hug." I freaking swooned every time (not that it was ever said to me, but... lol)

As someone who's watched her share of TV shows where the leads call each other by their last names (hello, X-Files), I feel like Sam's term of endearment is "McNally." Obviously not when they're on the job, but when they're off the job, to me that's him using a pet name for her. I can never picture Sam using the conventional babe, honey/hun, sweetheart, etc.
Oh I totally see "Andy" as his term of endearment! That shows how we all interpret things differently.
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Oct 12 2012, 09:53 PM
This is site is like crack isn't it? I should seriously unregister because I can see myself spending an inapropriate amount of time on here and I have a LIFE, you know?

Anyway, I loathe fics that have Andy getting hurt constantly because, come on, they don't live in a war zone. Toronto at it's worst is still a Canadian city with strict gun control laws and a better than average respect for police. Also, she was trained wasn't she? By the best. :)

Also, there have been a spate of stories recently where Sam or Andy are down right nasty to each other. Sam has yelled at her exactly twice (justifiably) and Andy can be awfully bratty, but never so bad that I've wanted to smack her really, really hard. I mean, OOC is one thing but wtf? Why do people even want to follow a show when they seem to hate the characters? I've recently started reading reviews before I read the fics to get a general idea of what I'm getting into.

I admit to being pretty picky, but good characterization is my only real need. I have read a couple of Sam/OC that I adore and I don't hate the idea of Andy/OC even though I don't read them.



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Better you realize now, your free time will never be your own ever again.

You will continue to stay up until all hours of the night to see who's "thumbs-upped" your posts.

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With the whole term of endearment thing...I agree that Sam's "McNally" is his term of endearment. But seeing sweetheart or babe or that type of thing in fic bothers me because I just can't see them saying it. Also, anytime I see sweetheart, I think of him saying it sarcastically and totally not in a term of endearment.
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I don't necessarily hate the idea of one of them getting hurt, but sometimes it drags on for too long.

I forgot to mention one of my favorite things in fics: Sam and Andy undercover together. In any scenario. It's guaranteed to be a fun read.

I wouldn't say I hate terms of endearment. There are some writers who do them really, really well. But there are a lot that don't and it comes off as so fake.
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Oct 12 2012, 09:53 PM
This is site is like crack isn't it? I should seriously unregister because I can see myself spending an inapropriate amount of time on here and I have a LIFE, you know?

Anyway, I loathe fics that have Andy getting hurt constantly because, come on, they don't live in a war zone. Toronto at it's worst is still a Canadian city with strict gun control laws and a better than average respect for police. Also, she was trained wasn't she? By the best. :)

Also, there have been a spate of stories recently where Sam or Andy are down right nasty to each other. Sam has yelled at her exactly twice (justifiably) and Andy can be awfully bratty, but never so bad that I've wanted to smack her really, really hard. I mean, OOC is one thing but wtf? Why do people even want to follow a show when they seem to hate the characters? I've recently started reading reviews before I read the fics to get a general idea of what I'm getting into.

I admit to being pretty picky, but good characterization is my only real need. I have read a couple of Sam/OC that I adore and I don't hate the idea of Andy/OC even though I don't read them.



Yes it's like crack, but it's so much FUN here!! Welcome to the RB vortex, you're stuck here now :muwahaha:

No, but seriously... welcome :hithere:

I really like your point about Andy getting hurt... yes, they paint her to be a danger magnet but she not as much of a clutz as she comes across in a lot of fic.

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Why do people even want to follow a show when they seem to hate the characters?

THIS!! YES!!! It does feel like that sometimes doesn't it? Actually, I tend to avoid reading reviews on ff.net because I find the same problem there... that people are very nitpicky about random opinion-based stuff. Like "I didn't like Sam" or "Andy is annoying"... okay... back it up with something and if you can't do that a) why are you reading the fic and b) why are you bothering to leave a half- :censored: review?

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About the whole "pretending to know Toronto" thing.

As someone who lives 18 hours away from Ontario, I spend a ridiculous (read: Unbelievably stupid) amount of time researching street names, stores, etc to make my stories as accurate as possible, but sometimes you just can't do it. I can ask three separate people to give me a detail about the city and get three different answers. At some point, you need to just stop editing, stop obsessing and post. I really dont think it ruins the story that much if you miss the location by one street or don't know exactly what they sell at CanadIAN Tire. (yes, I edited this bc I can't stand not to.)

Those details are important, but they shouldn't make or break a story IMO. And not everyone has immediate access to Canada *L* If the show was set in Miami, plenty of writers from Toronto would be making the same mistakes.
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Is that what that little thumb is for? God, am I dumb or just unobservant?

I agree with the terms of endearment, except when Sam calls her sweetheart in the
LJ fics. Then it's very acceptable. I don't like it when Andy calls Sam 'Sammy'. I just think it sounds forced or juvenile or something, though I like it from the other TO's, even Noelle.
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You will continue to stay up until all hours of the night to see who's "thumbs-upped" your posts.

:muwahaha:
:lmao: I'm ridiculously glad I'm not the only person who does that knows that's a thing . . . :whistle
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About the whole "pretending to know Toronto" thing.

As someone who lives 18 hours away from Ontario, I spend a ridiculous (read: Unbelievably stupid) amount of time researching street names, stores, etc to make my stories as accurate as possible, but sometimes you just can't do it. I can ask three separate people to give me a detail about the city and get three different answers. At some point, you need to just stop editing, stop obsessing and post. I really dont think it ruins the story that much if you miss the location by one street or don't know exactly what they sell at Canada Tire.

Those details are important, but they shouldn't make or break a story IMO.
Uh yeah, it's Canadian Tire but I'm impressed you know that. I don't care about that level of accuracy, hell make up street names and locations, just as long as writers remember that you don't fly to St. Catherines from Toronto EVER and Ontario summers, though short, are hot as hell.
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Oct 12 2012, 10:13 PM
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Oct 12 2012, 10:01 PM
About the whole "pretending to know Toronto" thing.

As someone who lives 18 hours away from Ontario, I spend a ridiculous (read: Unbelievably stupid) amount of time researching street names, stores, etc to make my stories as accurate as possible, but sometimes you just can't do it. I can ask three separate people to give me a detail about the city and get three different answers. At some point, you need to just stop editing, stop obsessing and post. I really dont think it ruins the story that much if you miss the location by one street or don't know exactly what they sell at Canada Tire.

Those details are important, but they shouldn't make or break a story IMO.
Uh yeah, it's Canadian Tire but I'm impressed you know that. I don't care about that level of accuracy, hell make up street names and locations, just as long as writers remember that you don't fly to St. Catherines from Toronto EVER and Ontario summers, though short, are hot as hell.
*LOL* thanks for the correction, but yeah. excellent illustration of my point.
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It's interesting reading everyone's likes and dislikes when it comes to fic...what a great idea for a thread!

I must say, I actually don't have ANY particular preferences about anything. I've read various works by an assortment of writers that just...'ring true' - even if it's an unlikely scenario or what have you (if that makes sense!?)

I'll normally scan the first few paragraphs or so before I read something to see if something clicks with me.

Generally speaking I like stories that I can personally relate to (be it the experience of a character or a situation that they're in...or the feelings they have).
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Oct 12 2012, 10:13 PM
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Oct 12 2012, 10:01 PM
About the whole "pretending to know Toronto" thing.

As someone who lives 18 hours away from Ontario, I spend a ridiculous (read: Unbelievably stupid) amount of time researching street names, stores, etc to make my stories as accurate as possible, but sometimes you just can't do it. I can ask three separate people to give me a detail about the city and get three different answers. At some point, you need to just stop editing, stop obsessing and post. I really dont think it ruins the story that much if you miss the location by one street or don't know exactly what they sell at Canada Tire.

Those details are important, but they shouldn't make or break a story IMO.
Uh yeah, it's Canadian Tire but I'm impressed you know that. I don't care about that level of accuracy, hell make up street names and locations, just as long as writers remember that you don't fly to St. Catherines from Toronto EVER and Ontario summers, though short, are hot as hell.
How hot exactly? It's hard for me to envision going from snow to the kind of weather that we get here in N. Ca in the Summers. I, for some reason, don't believe its possible. Lol.
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