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E-Wrestling Top 5s; Who Are Your Top 5s?
Topic Started: Mar 19 2011, 12:15 PM (596 Views)
synthetic67
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I'm borrowing this from both the 3WL and Kapow boards. I imagine that those of you in the UK don't get NFL Network, and thus don't get to see all the great Top 10 lists they make shows for. So I thought, what about top 10s for e-wrestling? And then lowered it to 5, since this game is so broad and unfocused. 10 might be more fun, but also harder to make lists for - especially if you've not been around women's e-w for that long. So here's how the "game" goes. I name a category, and then we all list what we think is the top 5 of all time for it. After enough participation in one category, we can move on to the next. These aren't awards like our year-ends though, as they won't be added up. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

So without further bullshit on my part, here's the first category.

Top 5 Gimmick Matches Women Have Participated In
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stygimoloch
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DISCLAIMER: I'm not keen on the term 'gimmick' match as the word implies, imo, that the match is inherently inferior to a regular-rules singles match. That's just a personal thing though. Not exactly complaining, just seizing the opportunity for a mini-rant XD


I'm afraid I don't know if we get NFL Network over here as I don't have a TV, but I assume it's the same as most 'Top X' lists?


Top 5 gimmick matches women have participated in...

I think it's fair to say that whatever 'real' match one can think of, some fed somewhere has done it. Off the top of my head Baby Dogg alone has been in TLC, Hell in a Cell, barbed wire ropes, Survival of the Sickest, FMW style explosives-based matches... loads more. One of my characters is set to be appearing in an electricity based deathmatch at the end of the month. Although I've never done a Taipei deathmatch or an Elimination Chamber, I'd like to try them - and I'm sure women's feds must have done them before.

Matches made up for fedding is trickier. I'm fairly sure that, for example, no woman has ever participiated in a Tinselly Twinkly Tasselly Taser On A Tree match, because I booked and wrote the only one which was ever held and both the participants were male (one of them, in fact, was our very own Craig). But some other fed might have looked at it and gone "Oh hey, that's kinda funny, let's have one of our own" and included women.


I dunno about an order, and there's only three for now, but here's some thoughts anyway.

LADDER / TLC
Since they're functionally the same thing. Ladder matches suit fast, gymnastic fighters. Women tend towards that more than men do. I think women are probably capable - on average - of putting on better ladder matches than men, but I've seen only a handful of real-world ladder matches involving women.

CONCRETE CAGE
This is GEW's top match, held roughly once every year and a half. It's a cage match... but the ring is removed and it's fought out on the bare concrete. This match predates my involvement in GEW so I feel comfortable in saying I love it. It's simple, and it strikes a good balance of not being over the top, while still being legit dangerous. It helps that we're a fed which actually sells injuries...

So why this match for women specifically? Two reasons. First, like like ladder matches, enclosure matches favour agile fighters. Second, Baby Dogg was - along with Reese Black - the first women to ever compete in the match. So it holds a special place in my heart.

NO DISQUALIFICATION
Simple, yes. But have you ever noticed that in, ahem, real wrestling - where women are presented as being staggeringly weak compared to men - 'equaliser' matches tend to be no-DQ, and the most famous female intergender wrestlers tend to be hardcore wrestlers? Wrestling as a discipline favours reach and strength. When the boundaries of the discipline are removed, the playing field levels out a bit. Personally I have no problem buying women beating men in a regular match, but even for those who do have a problem there, I think it happening in a no-DQ environment is easier to swallow.


HONOURABLE MENTION: GRAVY/PUDDING/WHATEVER MATCH
I can't bring myself to have this as an actual, legit choice, but the inevitable finish - holding the opponent's head under the surface of a pool of goop - is about as hardcore an expression of "tap or snap" as you can get. Plus, y'know, there's something sexy about a woman covered in chocolate and syrup.


More to come when I'm more awake...
Edited by stygimoloch, Mar 19 2011, 09:11 PM.
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I should have responded to this myself ages ago. And I know I've thought about what my list would look like, but just never got back around to this. So with that said, here goes.


5. War Games - For starters, it's an old school classic. What's not to like? Put two teams of five into a caged double ring, and you're good to go. War Games are just plain fun - fun to read, fun to write, and fun to watch. ACE did one a couple PPVs ago, and I wrote a summarized one for my summary fed several years ago. Give them the proper build-up, with heat between all ten women, and you're good to go.

4. Blind Stipulations Match - This is one that has been made famous in both UWF and MBC. It's the perfect feud-builder as typically the heel knows the stips, whereas the face has to try and figure them out. It's an ingenious idea, and would probably rank a bit higher if I wasn't personally burned with one of them. The fedhead decided that I as a handler couldn't know the stip, rather than just my character not knowing, whereas my opposing handler did know - and in fact came up with the idea. So there was no mutual cooperation involved, and it left me with a bad taste in my mouth - especially considering it happened in my character's hometown. And it was used to end a feud, rather than further it.

3. No DQ Match - I have to agree with Styg on this one. It might not be the most elaborate match, but that's the point. Take off the kid gloves and give me a no DQ match to write, and I'll give you a classic. And considering it was the bread and butter of good old ECW, there's tons of footage to spark your imagination.

2. Tokyo Suicide Match - I probably have the stips messed up somehow, as it's been so many years since I read it, but there were no ropes, electric barbed wire on one side, explosive wire on the other. Beds of thumbtacks, nails, glass shards, and something else that slips my mind at the moment. I do know though that both women's hands were wrapped, dipped in glue, and then covered in glass shards. There were no pinfalls or submissions either, but the winner was the last woman standing. I was involved in one of the matches, and my opponent in it was involved in another as well.

1. Torture Room Deathmatch - Sure I'm biased, having been a part of all three Torture Room matches to date. A buddy and I came up with it for a mini-feud we ran during a Jisatsu (ultraviolent) tournament. You have a cell set up around the ring, with weapons hanging from the ceiling. Four lexan coffins lay on their sides outside the ring in each corner. If somebody gets put in one, they have to stay there for sixty seconds, or forfeit the match. First pinfall of submission wins. Both Myra and Sonya Benedict have each been in two of these - facing eachother in the third one not long ago in ACE.
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What is a lexan coffin?
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From what I understand, lexan is what they use for the glass at hockey games. That and/or bulletproof glass, I can't remember which... unless they're one and the same lol
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Lexan is a kind of transparent plastic, yes.



My favorite gimmick matches...

5- Tag team
Since I dislike gimmick matches, I'll include tag team matches, specifically for non-PPV singles characters. Always provides a good opportunity to do something with a handler you've never worked with before.

Royal Rumble
I'm a sucker for the Royal Rumble, so I'm a sucker for those. It helps that they're a bitch to write, as it keeps them rare and special.

Domed cage
I like cage matches, but the part where a guy tries to "escape" never sat well with me. I prefer the cage that will prevent shenanigans and screwjobs while the wrestlers trapped within settle their scores.

2 out of 3 falls
Those tend to be fun, and have the advantage of having the loser look like she's not a total loser, since she normally at least scored 1 fall.

No time limit
Here I mean a regular, no gimmick match that won't end in a time-limit draw. That is all. No gimmick is still the best type of match bar none.
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Time to change up the game. The Ganso Bomb was initially a botched powerbomb if I recall correctly. And there are certain moves that still work fine when botched - or executed/sold as a botch. So with that said...

What are the five best moves to botch?
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stygimoloch
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Interesting one! This will require some thought...
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I missed the first thing, for shame.

Gonna do it anyway!


Pure Rules
Basically the RoH rope break gimmick match but with some minor tweaks to make it more our own. I think I might just like it because it gets to be mine, since we only did two thus far and I somehow ended up in both of them. It also makes things a bit more sportly and helped make the match a big deal. When you're down to no rope breaks and your opponent still has two, you can really build some tension since any tight submission can inevitably end the match.


Captain's Fall Tag Match
I like these over the standard Survivor Series fair partly because they're quicker to write as you don't need to whittle down every competitor on the losing team. They also add new elements of strategy and can pull feuds between opposing teams. I don't see a lot of them, so they have some novelty I guess.


Bathtub o' Barbedwire
I haven't been in any, wrote any, seen any, read any, but I like to tart one around as one of my character's novelty stories from Mexico. When people ask her about the stupidest thing she's ever done, she tells them about the Mexican Bathtub match, where she got sent in, then got stuck and had to be cut free and all sort of things.


Ironman Table's Matches
It is what it sounds like. I always liked the idea of Ironman matches and enjoy the little twist to the formula. Tables provide a good spectacle. Things break and everyone cheers, but this way they don't just end on the oner. You get to build around some other spots, jazz things up and build the tension of working from behind or trying to maintain a lead.

I only did one. I didn't win. It was sad.


Dog Collar Matches
Always thought this was a good rough and ready stip. Gives you a chance to break away from all the pop and flash that you (when I say you I mean me) do the rest of the time and just get really brutal.

I do a lot of barbedwire and shit on fire matches, but I think this is what I like to get down to. Just nasty ass brawls.
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alexagogo

Second question!

I can't think of many. Off the top of my head...


Tiger Driver '91 - such an awful, horrible looking move to be a part of. I'm really glad it exists.

Ganso Bomb - Already covered. Got bless you Wrestlemania 64 for bringing this to so many movelists o_O.

Styles Clash Ganso Bomb - I've seen a number of people use this. Comes from a video of AJ giving some guy the Styles Clash but essentially driving him down on the back of his head instead. Obviously not a move you can do in real life since someone would probably die. Thankfully here in the midst of the written word, it's not a problem!

Edited by alexagogo, Jun 25 2011, 07:36 PM.
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